TTS transmission dead!!

McRat

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Casper so far is doing well with no failures to date except a couple of melted converters caused by my good friend Pat. :rolleyes::D
Casper has things done to it that no other Duramax/Allison has and it works.
My goal is to have an Allison run 9's. Wish me luck.:D

I think if we were as light as the 2wd trucks, we would have already run 9's. But does running a sub-5000lb diesel racecar really translate out to what a trans can or cannot hold on a real truck? I figure unless we run 9's with more than 6000lb, we aren't testing transmissions, we are testing weight reduction.
 

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personal friend of mine Garrett Shields is running a goerend built dodge trans in his pulling truck that is approx 1000hp on a very large single. He rebuilds it once a season (end of season) and has had 0 issues other than clutches once a year.

They will hold up if built by the right people.

all transmissions are going to have issues with big power.... maybe the increased dodge failures you are seeing is because there are more dodges out there with over 750whp than there are duramax's .... i dont think you can argue that
 

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my question for everyone is our we talking 750 dyno horse power or are we talking track proven mph/et per pound proven . that meens how many dodges with a easy to hit weight of 7000 lbs are running 11.21 . this is not a smart ass questing just really wondering how many are really putting down the times not dyno runs .
 
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old post again but i want to clear things up,yes truck wasnt at track that day but no internal tranny damage a new tq con was being installed that Ron brought from suncoast in his carry on baggage.this was the first event with a dflite that steve was there an able to tune.once intial setup and dial in process was done tranny performed flawlessly until this years suncoast race were a year old input shaft broke.

as far as the dyno did you ever here the whole deal ,we were telling people steve was tuning the truck via remote wirless programing,we were consuming beer and having a good time i naturaly thought people would assume we were bsing them,i hpe the rest of the story clears it up for you.as far as nos goes if you would have asked you could have looked for it to clear it up for yourself.no nos was used..


Jess,

I am not trying to start anything, I was just posting what you told me at the event when asked where Buck's truck was. As for Buck's LBZ, I know everyone was drinking, I was under the barn with everyone. If his truck is not running NOS then thats one strong tunning only damx at 600hp. It just came alive on the dyno very suddenly like it was running the juice but then again the dyno had been messing up and broke later that day.

Lets hope everything stays together this year and I will see you at OBX:hug:
 

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personal friend of mine Garrett Shields is running a goerend built dodge trans in his pulling truck that is approx 1000hp on a very large single. He rebuilds it once a season (end of season) and has had 0 issues other than clutches once a year.

They will hold up if built by the right people.

all transmissions are going to have issues with big power.... maybe the increased dodge failures you are seeing is because there are more dodges out there with over 750whp than there are duramax's .... i dont think you can argue that

Have you ever been to large diesel drag event? The Dodge trannies hold maybe 4-6 passes then retire, and that's the good ones. The lightweights have better luck, but they still fail.

Sledpulling doesn't hurt transmissions nearly as bad.
 

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my question for everyone is our we talking 750 dyno horse power or are we talking track proven mph/et per pound proven . that meens how many dodges with a easy to hit weight of 7000 lbs are running 11.21 . this is not a smart ass questing just really wondering how many are really putting down the times not dyno runs .

This is a very good point, there are ALOT of big power Dodges that can put down a big number on the dyno but not back it up at the track. Around here we have John Porterfield's 96 ECLB that will dyno 890hp but has run a best of 11.42 @ 119.
 

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This is a very good point, there are ALOT of big power Dodges that can put down a big number on the dyno but not back it up at the track. Around here we have John Porterfield's 96 ECLB that will dyno 890hp but has run a best of 11.42 @ 119.

John s times will still back up the 750 plus hp in debate and he frives the truck all over and races the heck out of .also its an ATS by gosh...
 

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This is a very good point, there are ALOT of big power Dodges that can put down a big number on the dyno but not back it up at the track. Around here we have John Porterfield's 96 ECLB that will dyno 890hp but has run a best of 11.42 @ 119.



big single? just curious? as that could explain times if its a big single on a 12v
 

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yes hp is hp unless it cant spool on the line.....


garrett has tried dragging his pulling truck but its pointless as it cant even begin to spool on the line but it would once moving
 
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You don't need to spool on the line to prove HP. 60' times have very little effect on trap speeds in a 1/4mi.

Trap speeds are mostly just power to weight ratio. ET's add the launch to the equation.
 

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Anyone can get on a dyno and pput up big numbers for a few second pull, a dyno is a tuneing mehod and that is it IMO. A truck that goes down the track again and again and again is what I am after. I have alot of respect for Buck's DMax but I hate to see a Dodge tranny replace an Alli. It was said earlier these Duramax have just recently came to life with the big numbers. Give men like Mike and BigDipper time and the Alli will outperform the Dodge trannies with big numbers just as they do now at stock levels. We have owned 3 cummins trucks in our time none of them "heavily Modded" but just simple Edge programers, 2 of those trucks are automatics and the other a 6 speed. First 47Re was toast 28K miles that is pathetic. We where runnin the Edge on a tow tune. The second 47RE was given some pump upgrade that was garanteed to make it live along life. Right around 90K she gave up the ghost. and the 3rd was at 160K that is pathatic. Our old LB7 is egttin close to 200K on the stock alli with a 120 tune in never limped, never missed a beat.

Give it a bit of time and let the Alli gurues work there magic and the Alli will be dominate.
 

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Anyone can get on a dyno and pput up big numbers for a few second pull, a dyno is a tuneing mehod and that is it IMO. A truck that goes down the track again and again and again is what I am after. I have alot of respect for Buck's DMax but I hate to see a Dodge tranny replace an Alli. It was said earlier these Duramax have just recently came to life with the big numbers. Give men like Mike and BigDipper time and the Alli will outperform the Dodge trannies with big numbers just as they do now at stock levels. We have owned 3 cummins trucks in our time none of them "heavily Modded" but just simple Edge programers, 2 of those trucks are automatics and the other a 6 speed. First 47Re was toast 28K miles that is pathetic. We where runnin the Edge on a tow tune. The second 47RE was given some pump upgrade that was garanteed to make it live along life. Right around 90K she gave up the ghost. and the 3rd was at 160K that is pathatic. Our old LB7 is egttin close to 200K on the stock alli with a 120 tune in never limped, never missed a beat.

Give it a bit of time and let the Alli gurues work there magic and the Alli will be dominate.

I hope you are right, in the meantime I'll run whatever is working best, right now it's the Duraflite. The fact that Buck went through 40 allisons and one duraflite lasted him an entire year is a pretty good testimonial. By the way, they are not that easy to adapt, lot more complicated then we first thought.
 

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I hope you are right, in the meantime I'll run whatever is working best, right now it's the Duraflite. The fact that Buck went through 40 allisons and one duraflite lasted him an entire year is a pretty good testimonial. By the way, they are not that easy to adapt, lot more complicated then we first thought.
it was a bit of a struggle at first but once we got it figured out it has worked very well.if you guys need help give us a shout and we will help best we can...
 

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it was a bit of a struggle at first but once we got it figured out it has worked very well.if you guys need help give us a shout and we will help best we can...

Thanks a lot, getting the wiring straight so it will reconize it's in park and neutral, and now getting it to shift when it should. Rob's got it pretty well figured out, will sure call if we hit a snag. Thanks again. Ken
 

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A friend of mine dynoed his CR cummins this past fall. He layed down 809HP. That truck in street trim runs mid 12's. He has a suncoast tranny that had some issues in the begining but they got it ironed out and does great. He daily drives the truck and sled pulls it almost every weekend in the summer. I'm impressed with overall performance of the tranny.

There is a builder up here that has done several trannys for guys. He seems to be doing great work. He's one of those "secret" builders and you have to call 5 guys before you get his number. I don't know what the deal is but so far he has built some very nice trannys for the lucky few. I just don't get the secret hand shake crap......
 

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John s times will still back up the 750 plus hp in debate and he frives the truck all over and races the heck out of .also its an ATS by gosh...

Yes it backs up the 750+ but it doesn't back up the 890hp it shows on the dyno. No disrespect to John or his truck at all - it's a hell of a truck and he's a hell of a guy. I was simply using it as and example of a Dodge that dynos higher than the track times prove. Your truck put down ~750 that day and ran about the same times as him didn't it? I wouldn't think Winston's has much over 750hp (if that) and it ras run a hair faster with no weight reduction.

big single? just curious? as that could explain times if its a big single on a 12v

John has a Compound setup and cuts pretty good 60's - 11.42 is a good ET for 119mph
 

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Anyone can get on a dyno and pput up big numbers for a few second pull, a dyno is a tuneing mehod and that is it IMO. A truck that goes down the track again and again and again is what I am after. I have alot of respect for Buck's DMax but I hate to see a Dodge tranny replace an Alli. It was said earlier these Duramax have just recently came to life with the big numbers. Give men like Mike and BigDipper time and the Alli will outperform the Dodge trannies with big numbers just as they do now at stock levels. We have owned 3 cummins trucks in our time none of them "heavily Modded" but just simple Edge programers, 2 of those trucks are automatics and the other a 6 speed. First 47Re was toast 28K miles that is pathetic. We where runnin the Edge on a tow tune. The second 47RE was given some pump upgrade that was garanteed to make it live along life. Right around 90K she gave up the ghost. and the 3rd was at 160K that is pathatic. Our old LB7 is egttin close to 200K on the stock alli with a 120 tune in never limped, never missed a beat.

Give it a bit of time and let the Alli gurues work there magic and the Alli will be dominate.

This means nothing. Ford has by far the strongest stock tranny, but probably the weakest after they are built. built tranny to built tranny the dodge is far superior to the allison.