That is what I like about you Pat, always willing to help a guy no matter whos parts he runs. :hug:
TTS transmission dead!!
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That is what I like about you Pat, always willing to help a guy no matter whos parts he runs. :hug:
With all due respect you are full of shit. The Ford 4R100 is the strongest trans Ford ever built and it is true in stock form it is the strongest in a pathectic 7.3 installed in a Ford.
One question for you. Do you build transmissions or do you post hearsay? Do you actually make these things work or do you just post crap like typical Dodge guys.
What about the TorqueShift, Mike? I've heard similiar things to what bigbird is posting about them, but I've also heard from a guy that builds transmissions that Ford transmissions will not protect themselves like our transmissions will and will continue to run until every part in them needs to be replaced.
Josh
iI like you but your shit is getting old. Seems you like to get on eveyones case. Your posts are always snyde when they don't need to be. Maybe you think it's cool, but it's not. Try and show some love every once in a while.
I think thats it Josh. Our tranny have protection built in and theirs continue to eat themselves up until your stranded. No doubt the dorkshift's (I seen Ben call it that) hold power when tuned with increased line pressure but I want to see it torn apart after it's been beat on. My buddy has a BTS full built tranny in his 7.3 and it works great but it's still a turd!
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The torque shift cannot make much pressure stock. Not enough to hold 12's more than a couple of times. It needs a tuner to increase pressure. There are no valves in a torqueshift valve body, only solenoids. Each solenoid is a pressure regulator and shift solenoid for each gear. There is no shift kit for the torqueshift that does anything worthwhile. Bigger flow solenoids have been used to help. Pump failures are still the norm. The 4R100 runs circles around the aformentioned p/s.
The 4R100 can be made into a formidable trans that can really take it if built by the right person.
good thing you can disagree like an adult. what a baby. sorry i ever insulted YOUR almighty allison. Don't build trannies. Just go to the track alot is all. Just posting what i have seen. Sorry (This is the part where i bow to you.)
The electronics is a big problem because Allison uses it in place of acumalators which regulate shift quality using pedal position. Next problem is using 2 pressure regulators at the same time. One pulses a clutch on ( slip it on for comfort ) and the other pulses the off going clutch ( slips it off ) at the same time. What's the chances of getting this timing correct on a towing, bulky, not made for racing trans trying to run big hp and asked to shift fast in a 7K truck? Not promissing is it?
The internals are all wrong in the Alli as are the gear ratios and it has too many gears. The trans is too heavy for racing and the huge size of the internals do not help with high performance. remember GM did not install the Alli for you to race. They installed it to handle just about any kind of load or overload yo can think of when used as it was intended. The Allison will in most cases beat the shit out of any trans 5 to 1, mileage wise, on the planet when used as intended.
Grow up. If i misread something i apologize. You give Josh grief and then talk like a total jerk. lots of 6.0's and 6.4's have run 12's on stock trans.
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You did not insult me bigbird. But I do see that when you cannot come up with real tech answers you resort to suble insults. Typical knowitall.
You could have posted some evidence to your claims. We could have discussed and I would probably have shot them down; in a nice way.
God bless them.
What I posted to Josh does not concern you. I like Josh. He can be a pian in the ass.
As as your 12 sec Fords go; pull the trans program out of the tuner and watch them destroy themselves.
I have no tech answers never said i did. No subtle insults, you were the one who decided to start calling names. I guess your tech knowledge over rides what happens at the track. anyway no hard feelings as i can't remember what we were disagreeing about.
God bless them.
What I posted to Josh does not concern you. I like Josh. He can be a pian in the ass.
As as your 12 sec Fords go; pull the trans program out of the tuner and watch them destroy themselves.
I won't argue that. but they still run 12's on the stock trans.
I have no hard feeling as well. The big disagreement was your statement about Ford having the strongest stock trans.
Just going by what i have seen at the track. I will defer to you on the tech end of things. It's all good. I honestly wasn't trying to stir the pot.
What's the fastest Ford that anyone "knows for a fact" was running a 100% stock trans. I don't care about programming, but many folk think a rebuild or upgraded converter is still stock.
That might be my summer project. To prove an Allison can go quicker untouched than any other trans. We know it will outsurvive either the Dodge or Ford at stock power levels towing heavy or in medium duty applications like motorhomes.
I think we can take a 100% stock Allison and run high 11's with the right setup.
That might be my summer project. To prove an Allison can go quicker untouched than any other trans. We know it will outsurvive either the Dodge or Ford at stock power levels towing heavy or in medium duty applications like motorhomes.
I think we can take a 100% stock Allison and run high 11's with the right setup.