L5P L5P Tuning
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Right on. Even better that there’s no issues to speak of, yet. Did he go into any sort of detail? If you can’t say, or would rather not, no worries.
Right!!! Serves them right. Pay back sucks doesn't it.
There license structure sucks yet people still buy into it.
IMO, I would not mention who is doing deletes out in the open, especially on this new stuff. We all know that big brother is watching.
Just my opinion, not trying to step on any ones toes. :thumb:
Just my opinion, not trying to step on any ones toes. :thumb:
You guys do realize that's the exact reason most people no longer share info in the open on this forum (or any other for that matter) any more, dont you? Essentially the same thing happened with EFILive over at DP years ago.
GMC_2002_Dmax
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It will all be stolen, copied, R&D'd in no time.
Lawsuits will be flying, then a race to the bottom for prices as that will happen quickly IMHO.
The prices will keep a lot of people on the fence, you can tune an LML ECM and TCM with EZ or EFI for a fraction of the cost and all go fast parts are widely available for LML now.
There is a market, but for the average guy spending $5k or more is going to be an a roadblock, Unlock, Credits, GM Dealer VATS Relink, Tune, buying more software/hardware, who knows if HP is going to credit gouge as well.
Then an exhaust, intake will push some mods to $6k or more.
I have no doubt in the market being there, it will be much bigger if prices were lower, but I understand the cost to get it to market an the instant attempts by other companies to hack/reverse the process to get in on it as well.
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Lawsuits will be flying, then a race to the bottom for prices as that will happen quickly IMHO.
The prices will keep a lot of people on the fence, you can tune an LML ECM and TCM with EZ or EFI for a fraction of the cost and all go fast parts are widely available for LML now.
There is a market, but for the average guy spending $5k or more is going to be an a roadblock, Unlock, Credits, GM Dealer VATS Relink, Tune, buying more software/hardware, who knows if HP is going to credit gouge as well.
Then an exhaust, intake will push some mods to $6k or more.
I have no doubt in the market being there, it will be much bigger if prices were lower, but I understand the cost to get it to market an the instant attempts by other companies to hack/reverse the process to get in on it as well.
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Sorry guys I come from the old hackers Era where all that mattered was being FIRST.. Then ya leak it to the masses and let the script kiddies take all the heat for what happens with that info. Cause soon as words out, ya really never want to be the ONLY guy holding the keys. Those ones usually disappeared.
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kid, you're about the only person left who shares anything new on the tuning/electronics side. It is always appreciated.
I am are aware. I just see the irony of it happening to HP Tuners.
Plenty of copy and paste tuners out there and People that demand Free tunes with just buying a cable. Just look at the Hp tuners board...
I am also aware HP tuners can read an EFI Live tune Because of the theft of intellectual property. It's the only way Hp tuners could break into the diesel market.
To this day Hp tuners flash process is not 100% stable.
I also found out yesterday HP tuners allow's user defined parameters now at an additional cost of $169.99 :roflmao: I thought when they first allowed it, It was free???
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Well there in Canada so Imagine the EPA will eventually try to block them from selling here in the states.
Well there in Canada so Imagine the EPA will eventually try to block them from selling here in the states.
Anyone else hear gm put a lock down on l5p ecm’s unless you have a bad ecm and it is confirmed by a gm dealer?
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That truck smokes more than my mine. Great way to release a product, Get GM, the EPA, and all the nut jobs all worked up and on our case more than they already are.
Yep that’s what I was thinking. Nick must be going after the coal rollers. I’m a little disappointed in him...
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You'd be surprised what stock looks like.
I'd be more disappointed in GM. lol
I can guarantee release version won't be.
I'd be more disappointed in GM. lol
I can guarantee release version won't be.
So how much of a Band aid is the stock DPF?You'd be surprised what stock looks like.
I'd be more disappointed in GM. lol
I can guarantee release version won't be.