CC short bed ford 6.4= 12.1@110

[Stingpuller]

Nitrous

Ya can take it for what's it's worth but IF "YOU" think nos is that easy I will send you the parts and you can show me how easy it is! It's ALWAY'S easy when your just talking about it. CHEAP POWER is the other words I always here. Just how cheap is it? I have well over, well lets just say WAY to much in my motor! Why is a guy who runs big twins better than a guy who can tune nos? Pat tryed big twins and it wasn't that easy. Not a slam on him it's just facts. Maxdout team made it look easy but they have three smart guys working on the truck. One of them just happens to build twin kits. It's not cheap to go fast or build big power! I don't care how you do it. I think it's just a "PICK YOUR POISON" thing. Jeff

 

[SteveFord]

I always thought when your at the drag strip you try and run max effort with what you got to work with??? I'll give credit when it's due and all the guys running nitrous and are going fast CONGRATS as thats the whole intensions of drag racing. It's funny how you can bolt on a bigger turbo and run fuel only but when a guy puts a nitrous kit on and goes fast it dosen't count or "well your using nitrous so thats why you ran fast". Just like it was stated nitrous is kind of like a turbo in a bottle but cheaper. I didn't see anyone telling Kat her pass when it happend that "you know thats fast but you sprayed it so it really dosen't count". To say run it for 2 miles and see how long it lasts is making an excuse. We are talking drag racing times not land speed racing so your point is moot. Here the thing....a real racer in a motorsport of whatever kind it is well tell you it dosent matter how you did it going fast, it's that fact that you went fast and did it without cheating. Those who think nitrous is cheating must have gotten spanked by someone using it drag racing and still isn't over it. This is all my opinion.

 

[paint94979]

I always thought when your at the drag strip you try and run max effort with what you got to work with??? I'll give credit when it's due and all the guys running nitrous and are going fast CONGRATS as thats the whole intensions of drag racing. It's funny how you can bolt on a bigger turbo and run fuel only but when a guy puts a nitrous kit on and goes fast it dosen't count or "well your using nitrous so thats why you ran fast". Just like it was stated nitrous is kind of like a turbo in a bottle but cheaper. I didn't see anyone telling Kat her pass when it happend that "you know thats fast but you sprayed it so it really dosen't count". To say run it for 2 miles and see how long it lasts is making an excuse. We are talking drag racing times not land speed racing so your point is moot. Here the thing....a real racer in a motorsport of whatever kind it is well tell you it dosent matter how you did it going fast, it's that fact that you went fast and did it without cheating. Those who think nitrous is cheating must have gotten spanked by someone using it drag racing and still isn't over it. This is all my opinion.

This argument will never be settled or accepted by all fact is facts take a stock turbo built transmission truck add a .105 pill for what an extra 500.00$ you have an 11 second truck or a truck capable of running 11's. Now I have a GT4094, WD CP3 = almost 5,000$ i personally feel insulted for someone telling me my truck isn't as impressive as a truck that runs 12.0(with nitrous) to my 12.1 #2 only. I am not arguing with you Jeff in saying running mid to low 11's on nitrous is an easy task im saying that it is cheaper which makes it harder for me to swallow When you see a thread titled "Joe Diesel goes 11.98" and then you click on the thread and they say with nitrous personally me i am not impressed i mean thats fine you ran an 11 that is a great feet but to me #2 only is more impressive. Once again we are all entitled to our opinion and without that none of us would be going as fast as we are now

 

[gmduramax]

I always thought when your at the drag strip you try and run max effort with what you got to work with??? I'll give credit when it's due and all the guys running nitrous and are going fast CONGRATS as thats the whole intensions of drag racing. It's funny how you can bolt on a bigger turbo and run fuel only but when a guy puts a nitrous kit on and goes fast it dosen't count or "well your using nitrous so thats why you ran fast". Just like it was stated nitrous is kind of like a turbo in a bottle but cheaper. I didn't see anyone telling Kat her pass when it happend that "you know thats fast but you sprayed it so it really dosen't count". To say run it for 2 miles and see how long it lasts is making an excuse. We are talking drag racing times not land speed racing so your point is moot. Here the thing....a real racer in a motorsport of whatever kind it is well tell you it dosent matter how you did it going fast, it's that fact that you went fast and did it without cheating. Those who think nitrous is cheating must have gotten spanked by someone using it drag racing and still isn't over it. This is all my opinion.

:happy2::rofl::spit:

This argument will never be settled or accepted by all fact is facts take a stock turbo built transmission truck add a .105 pill for what an extra 500.00$ you have an 11 second truck or a truck capable of running 11's. Now I have a GT4094, WD CP3 = almost 5,000$ i personally feel insulted for someone telling me my truck isn't as impressive as a truck that runs 12.0(with nitrous) to my 12.1 #2 only. I am not arguing with you Jeff in saying running mid to low 11's on nitrous is an easy task im saying that it is cheaper which makes it harder for me to swallow When you see a thread titled "Joe Diesel goes 11.98" and then you click on the thread and they say with nitrous personally me i am not impressed i mean thats fine you ran an 11 that is a great feet but to me #2 only is more impressive. Once again we are all entitled to our opinion and without that none of us would be going as fast as we are now

I agree #2 is more impressive.

 

[Big Block 88]

Well this turned into a big pissin match, You guys can run the bottle all you want. There will always be guys who are for it and against it. If you can run fast and "tune" NOS then so be it. But as stated above you can't go comparing #2 only trucks to bottle feeders. I can go buy a honda civic and throw down the biggest jet acceptable, and make it in... okay well I don't know how fast cuz I have and never will own a ricer. But th point being you can take a pile of shit and make it fast for a fw seconds with a bottle. True HP is made by hard parts and hard work.

As for slammin Buck earlier I thought that was a low blow, Buck built his truck to do just what it does and I think it is cool but I am the guy who always wants to know what he ran on #2. Nasty has sprayed so has Casper. But for some damn reason I always look at the numbers that where made on #2.

Nope never been beat by a bottle feeder.

 

[SteveFord]

Okay so the trans is a well built 5 speed. So what.

Crutch is a crutch. For my sake, go hook the truck to a competition sled where it is work stock only and only factory twins/sequentials are allowed and no nitrous and no propane is allowed, and the top class weight is 8000 pounds. We'll see just how much performance is there. Um very little, but then again I may have to eat my words.

Even the 6.0's had tough trannies when SCT tuned.

It has a little pair of turbos on it, it should have torque down low. Not to mention this truck has a different big turbo on it if I am not mistaken. Go bolt a set of twins on a duramax again and report back. :rofl:

Spraying is just because they can't afford to do it right. It's an addiction for a lot of people. I am all about "all throttle no bottle".

Hey trent, lets spray your truck since it has twins on it. I wouldn't bet against 800hp with the amount of NOS he is running.

It's a good time, but it wasn't long after we had efi live we had guys running 12.9's on fuel. Your saying a stock duramax with a small set of twins at 8100 pounds couldn't run a 12.9???? Your kidding yourself.


On EDIT: I'm sorry was nasty girl spraying? WTF. These guys putting out 800hp and spraying to 1200hp, I respect them for 800hp. The ones putting out 1000 on fuel get my up most respect. Which number would you rather have? I like truck pulling. Nitrous in most pulling sanctions is like a showing Bill Gates your winning scratch off ticket. He'd probably wouldn't mind having it, but he couldn't tell you were he was going to use it. Get my drift, Nitrous is a cheap way out. Your #2 only guys will go a lot farther in the long run then your nitrous guys. If you want what they have, hit the bottle a few time.

You really don't know what your talking about do you. Do you even race? We are talking stock trucks with what was on them motor wise from the dealer. Guys like you come on the internet and speak from no experience and you don't have a truck yet and we are supposed to take you seriously? Internet racer.

 

[Stingpuller]

Thats my point

Everyone who has NOT tryed to run nos say how easy it is. Ask Camomax how easy it was to get in the 11's. Sometimes everthing clicks and sometimes it's like beating your head on the wall! Someone needs to tell me what the difference is between a big charger or a bottle. It's all air. Jeff

 

[ChevyDieselLLY]

i think guys that use spary when they are on the dyno to say they have this much hp are full of sh!t cuz they dont. but guys who run low 12's 11's or 10's or even 9's on spray my hat is off to you. he!! im gonna build my motor get nathan's big twin kit and will prob run spray just to see how much faster i can go.

 

[J Spruill]

I don't


I like the diesel power challenge. I like guys that can run and gun, tow, and go. Take Buck's purpose built truck and hook it to a sled or pull a trailer or drive it around town, or go take Nasty. You guys are so blind to the guys who are that are REALLY doing something.

Casper is doing something Nasty is doing something. They are trying to sustain hp. Everyone else seems to settle for short bursts. But the 2 listed above are the one who are going to find true problems and true solutions that will work for the long term. Buck and everyone else is content if it makes them a faster 1/4 mile. Make a fast 2 mile pass and see how their stuff holds up.

dude you are one ignorant son of a ditch.do you even know what in the hell you are talking about.trying to sustain power,i have forgotten more about making dmax power than you will ever know.as far as solutions i am willing to bet we encountered these problems you mentioned first and worked through them/around them.it is funny how someone with a 500 hp truck is mouthing off

 

[ChevyDieselLLY]

dude you are one ignorant son of a ditch.do you even know what in the hell you are talking about.trying to sustain power,i have forgotten more about making dmax power than you will ever know.as far as solutions i am willing to bet we encountered these problems you mentioned first and worked through them/around them.it is funny how someone with a 500 hp truck is mouthing off

Jess he doesnt own a dmax HAHAHA

 

[Kat]

I didn't see anyone telling Kat her pass when it happend that "you know thats fast but you sprayed it so it really dosen't count".

They are afraid of my Broom :witch:




:laugh::laugh:

 

[paint94979]

They are afraid of my Broom :witch:




:laugh::laugh:

my head still hurts from the last time Kat

 

[TrentNell]

this has turned into a funny thread . i have no problem with the juice , i even bought a kit but never had the stones to use , put it up on ebay after a mounth of sitting in the garage:rofl:

i choose fuel only because i want it to be there all the time and feel its safer than nitrous . But my hats off to anyone who can run fast no matter the method .

 

[Randy5.0]

this has turned into a funny thread . i have no problem with the juice , i even bought a kit but never had the stones to use , put it up on ebay after a mounth of sitting in the garage:rofl:

i choose fuel only because i want it to be there all the time and feel its safer than nitrous . But my hats off to anyone who can run fast no matter the method .

I know what you mean. I had a blue bottle for my truck too and I would have run it because I wanted to run an 11 sec. pass. I was always a forced induction guy, but after seeing nitrous at the track for twenty years you begin to respect the stuff for what it does and respect the guys that use it because it isn't really that easy. It certainly gets the job done.

 

[mytmousemalibu]

I respect a guy that can make power/tune spray. I grew up out at the drag strip, watching nitrous cars and the difficultys involved, its a trick. Sure theres easy kit stuff out there but still gotta tread lighty. Im Personally not a nitrous guy, gas or diesel. I have thought about it on my gas stuff but always decided to get my power another way. Pure #2 runs are impressive, but im not gonna piss on some ones shoe making 9's on spray. Just how I am

Now the case in point....
This thread is more or less......Has the Dmax been de-throned from stock (minor mods) supremacy....... IMO

A Dmax can do what the Ford did without the use of juice. Fuel only VS spray and getting the same time, not a fair match. Not sayin its not fast, just not a match in performance. Now take the spray off, theres a fair race for the Stock truck Crown! That said, few of you mentioned he had a bigger turbo replacing one of the stockers, Kinda stacked odd's isnt it? Thats what i originally ment when i said it was a "crutch".

The trans abuse is impressive if it is Truely all stock. As said, lets see how long all this stuff lasts. Everything has a weak link somewhere, it does feel a little threatening honestly, the Dmax has reigned well for some time!

The 6.4 saving grace is ditching the POS H.U.E.I injection, good for long life, poor for power.

 

[camomax]

"Forgive me father, for I have sprayed". To each his own. I want to go as fast in the 1/4 mile as I possibly can. Nitrous helps me do that.....enough said. I normally stay away from the pissing matches, but I've got to chime in on this one. You guys kill me that say nitrous is cheating, unfair, easy way out, cheap power, and so on.........."except" for Pat, Kat, Buck, Jeff, or anyone else that youve seen in your monthly subscriptions.

 

[paint94979]

"Forgive me father, for I have sprayed". To each his own. I want to go as fast in the 1/4 mile as I possibly can. Nitrous helps me do that.....enough said. I normally stay away from the pissing matches, but I've got chime in on this one. You guys kill me that say nitrous is cheating, unfair, easy way out, cheap power, and so on..........except for Pat, Kat, Buck, Jeff, or anyone else that youve seen in your monthly subscriptions.

How are you going to say nitrous is not a cheap way to go fast? Last time I checked it was ridiculously cheaper than turbo(s) etc... I have 5,000$ to run enough mph for 11.80's you have 500$ to run 11.80's as well. There are guys whom have ran 11.7's on a stock CP3 with nitrous so it doesnt seem your Dual CP3 have much if any effect on your mph.

 

[camomax]

How are you going to say nitrous is not a cheap way to go fast? Last time I checked it was ridiculously cheaper than turbo(s) etc... I have 5,000$ to run enough mph for 11.80's you have 500$ to run 11.80's as well. There are guys whom have ran 11.7's on a stock CP3 with nitrous so it doesnt seem your Dual CP3 have much if any effect on your mph.

Go easy Paint, wasnt trying to make this personal."Cheaper", yes I'll agree. "Cheap", no I disagree. I work pretty hard for 500$.
Damn son, low blow on the mph.

 

[TrentNell]

face it guys , mod for mod the ford has us beat ! doesnt mean i will ever buy one :rofl:

 

[Big Block 88]

face it guys , mod for mod the ford has us beat ! doesnt mean i will ever buy one :rofl:

Totally disagree with that one Trent, Ford does not have us beat. LBZ truck have run 12's on stock tranny's or have run stock in the past. The Ford is a big ugly heavy truck end of story. I give the Ford boys props due to the fact I feel they deserve it. They have had a long hard rod with the 6.OH NO. The 6.4 is impresive yes but does not have us dethroned in the least. The Ford crowd is where they are because of the hard work and long hours of R&D these racers have put into there truck. I respect that they have to last 100K mile and be able to make those times down the track with 150K miles on the clock like many trucks here have done.

To the NOS users here my apologies if you thought I was sayin you had no talent, that was not my intention, Myself I just care about power on #2 don't know why but that is what I look at. Maybe that makes me an idiot, I don't know. I just wanna see what I can do on #2