CC short bed ford 6.4= 12.1@110

Cornell

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Don't forget to make the dmax weigh in at just over 8000#'s and run 12.9's on fuel only and than spray it and see where it's at.
Why does that matter? Taking about Duramax guys making excuses. The Ford has a big fat ass, it weighs what it weighs. Tell ford not to make them weigh half a ton more than the competition. Saying it weighs more is just as much of an excuse as saying the Allison needs a converter, shift kit, and altos.
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like the people who post videos of their their 0-60 runs and say "yeah, and that was only at 75% throttle" (meanwhile the trans is shifting at 3250rpm in their "75% throttle" video)

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This thread was pretty funny/stupid to read.

What happens when two trucks roll up on each other and one is running spray and the other one isn't. When the guy with spray has an empty bottle, should he get all pissed that he got spanked by a #2 only truck and would over and over again as long as he can't make a pit stop to refill his bottle? LOL

"Yeah dude, you beat me! But I wasn't spraying!!!!!"

"Neither was I"

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IOWA LLY

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i agree with you.

In the same token.

Would a 200 pound person strap (2) 50 pound dumb bells to his hips just to run the 100 yard dash against a 300 pound kid just to prove the 300 pound kid can out run the 200 pound kid with another 100 pounds. That would be dumb. Even if it's true. You have to take it as it comes or mod it.




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SteveFord

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I guess you don't understand what I'm trying to say about hp to weight ratio. They have the hp advantage we have the weight advantage with those mods end of story. Do I like Fords yes...will I go out and buy one NO I love the Duramax even if for some reason I get beat by one I wouldn't get rid of the Duramax....I do respect them as performers though.
 
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Show me a stock duramax with only a tuner, intake and exhaust that runs 12.90's and weighs over 8000#'s race weight and I'll take what your saying in consideration. And then hit it with nitrous and see what happens. Heres another one...my budy Jake with his 08 with a 275 tune runs damn near the same time and mph as I do with that tune, intake and pdf, cat and muffler removed from the stock exhaust and was hot lapping it with no problems. He's had the truck for over a year and been running that tune for over 8 months and his truck is over 7000#'s easlily and has no problems and uses it for work also. You can keep comming up with all these different comparisons but bottom line you can't do the same thing at the same weight and make the same power period with only those mods period. This is nothing new about these trucks it's just now it's being done more than once. Take Spartans work truck thats got 310 tune, intake and exhaust with nitrous thats it and ran 114 mph and a 12.0? letting out of it before the finish as the intercooler boot blew off with a 1.90 60ft. Haven't heard personally of a 6.4 blowing up running nitrous have you? If so prove it. Show me a stock duramax(stock turbo, cp3, and injectors) with only a tuner that makes 590rwhp and can race and drive it on #2 only and I'll say your right. Don't get me wrong I love my duramax but I can admit when we are second in the power department to another in stock form unlike yourself. Be happy our trucks are light compared to theirs or it would be like a 300 pound fat kid out running you in the 100 yard dash.

I can show you Duramax's that have gone 12.9 with tuner and exhaust only. Roll an LBZ or LMM off the lot, I'll throw a tune on and make a 12 second pass. I can't show you a 8000 lbs CCSB duramax that isn't loaded with over 1000lbs of shit though. You can keep comparing their weight to ours and their dyno numbers to ours but IMO we race on pavement, not on rollers. At 530hp we've beat 640hp Dodges at the track and left 530hp Fords in the dust. At 750hp we have the edge on a local 12V that dynoes 890. Bottom line is we don't have to be at the same weight at the race track - so a Ford weighing so much is a DISADVANTAGE and shouldn't be bragged about as an accomplishment. Show me a Ford that is bone stock under the hood running 12.4s all day on fuel - I can show you videos of a Chevy doing it. And plenty more have done it with a few bolt ons (intake, downpipe, ect).

I'll say again that I'm impressed with the power they are getting out of the ill-fated 6.4L motor - but I'm not in the least threatened by it.
 

SteveFord

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Who said anything about being threatened by them? Like I said hp to weight advantage goes to us so your not telling me anything I already dont know. Bottom line for a hot rod truck the Duramax is the best.
 

Cornell

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I can show you Duramax's that have gone 12.9 with tuner and exhaust only. Roll an LBZ or LMM off the lot, I'll throw a tune on and make a 12 second pass. I can't show you a 8000 lbs CCSB duramax that isn't loaded with over 1000lbs of shit though. You can keep comparing their weight to ours and their dyno numbers to ours but IMO we race on pavement, not on rollers. At 530hp we've beat 640hp Dodges at the track and left 530hp Fords in the dust. At 750hp we have the edge on a local 12V that dynoes 890. Bottom line is we don't have to be at the same weight at the race track - so a Ford weighing so much is a DISADVANTAGE and shouldn't be bragged about as an accomplishment. Show me a Ford that is bone stock under the hood running 12.4s all day on fuel - I can show you videos of a Chevy doing it. And plenty more have done it with a few bolt ons (intake, downpipe, ect).

I'll say again that I'm impressed with the power they are getting out of the ill-fated 6.4L motor - but I'm not in the least threatened by it.


I'm with this guy :rofl:
 

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To everyone oooing and aaaing over the stock trans, from what I understand, the Ford transmission is a completely electronically controlled transmission. It doesn't have valves and stuff in the valvebody like the Allison does. So it can do all the hydraulic mods we do with Transgo valves, pump shims, and converter valves with just electronic tuning. I would be willing to bet an Allison with pump/valvebody mods would be able to run a 12.1 for a few passes at 8k lbs. Also, wasn't it posted somewhere else that this truck has a Suncoast converter, or was that another 6.4 truck?
 

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Show me a stock duramax with only a tuner, intake and exhaust that runs 12.90's and weighs over 8000#'s race weight and I'll take what your saying in consideration. And then hit it with nitrous and see what happens............ Show me a stock duramax(stock turbo, cp3, and injectors) with only a tuner that makes 590rwhp and can race and drive it on #2 only and I'll say your right.

My truck with the rear seat removed, no spare, no tailgate weighs 7600lbs. It's over 8000lb with all of that stuff on it partly due to the 6" lift and 35" tires. I would bet with it in stock trim, I could make these numbers your looking for happen with the tuning that I have. I honestly wish I could try it. I should try and rent a duramax and to prove it.

Last fall there was a 1 ton CC 6.4 with just tuning and an intake at the track and it ran 13.4 for 2 passes and then he had to leave as he "broke" something. Impressive #'s, but I believe it proves that the reliability of these trucks at that power level is less than a Dmax running the same trap speeds and times-regardless of weight.

As far as are the "on the bottle" numbers valid or not issue, IMO they are valid numbers, but I think they belong in a different class. Call it a performance enhancing drugs class or whatever!:rofl: I think there should be two classes - an "All Motor" one and "Nitrous" both with their own respective numbers and records because the components and methods used to make say 800 HP are different.

What gets me though is when the bottle feeders cry when they lose a race because they had a problem with their nos or the bottle ran out or whatever. Most guys are good about it but there are some whiners out there.
 

IOWA LLY

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I would bet with it in stock trim, I could make these numbers your looking for happen with the tuning that I have. I honestly wish I could try it.



Well the guys with 6.4 fords are not "betting" they could do it. They are actually doing it. If you want to try it, then by all means, try it.:)

Saying the Duramax "could" do it is really kind of pointless.
Go to the track and tell everyone you "could" beat them, but aren't willing to back it up. I bet you'll get laughed at.
 

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Everyone who has NOT tryed to run nos say how easy it is. Ask Camomax how easy it was to get in the 11's. Sometimes everthing clicks and sometimes it's like beating your head on the wall! Someone needs to tell me what the difference is between a big charger or a bottle. It's all air. Jeff

The only difference I see is that we saved 3-4K:D