Its funny how the Unions get blamed on destroying gm, and not the Ceo, and upper managment, if you all really believe that, you need a reality check.:thumb: Retirement is really killing gm, at having the most out of any automakers, but you cant just stop giving people retirement. For example, since the government is hurting for money, should we stop paying firefighters/policeman their retirement? I bet you guys say no right? If it was all the unions fault, Gm would have failed years ago, how long have they been union now? I dont buy it.
I will disagree on that one. The Democrat Party, the party of Global Warming, the party that wants to eliminate cars, the party that is walking in lockstep with the UNIONS is destroying this country and destroyed many Airlines, Car Companies, and Manufacturing Facilities in the USA !
You don't want to hear it because you are a Union Member but when you have a person who retires and is still earning a nice pension with very comprehensive medical coverage and they are no longer working they are the problem for the companies. I tell you what, start a business instead of working for one, make a payroll every week, pay the un-employment ins, workers comp ins, disability ins, SS/Medicare %, pay the light bill, heat bill and liability ins on the building, pay all the costs of that and then add 30% more for the UNION's prevailing wage and then when your employeee retires keep on paying their medical and a nice paycheck every week or month.
Then let them collect for 20-30 years after they stopped working for you and you are still paying them. Tell me how long you think you can have that go on, and then have to deal with the very people you are supporting complain all the time that they are getting screwed by you. Let them complain that they worked for you so they are entitled to these lavish benefits you are supposed to keep giving them even when it makes your company non-competitive in the real world.
You want to know why the jobs went out of the country ?? Look around, America is cheap as far as what it wants to spend and pay, you want the best deal on everything you buy, you want it cheap if you can get it cheap so when a business has to compete they can't when they have to overpay for labor costs because of a Union. If you tell me that supply and demand economics works then you can't beleive in a Union because that goes against that very principle. I have looked at bidding prevailing wage jobs and it is not worth it, the cost to hire a "UNION" employee is outrageous once you figure in all the "extra's" they demand.
You have your view and I have mine, and yes the Unions destroyed GM/Chrysler and many other American business's with the higher costs and the legacy costs. Blame the CEO, why because he maybe got $20-30 million to run a multi-billion dollar company, hardly the reason. When a company has to build a POS car to meet emissions or fuel economy requirements the free market still works, people will and have refused to buy junk like that. When a company if free to deliver a product people want at a reasonable price they do very, very well and it has worked this way since Capitalism was invented, the problem is the Unions and the Government have forced the free market to no longer be free by changing the rules to suit them and their political allies.
