and this may be pertaing to ats as well seems they have recevied epa cert on a fter treatment device on behalf of one of there customers http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2002_August_28/ai_90815465
WOW. Read this.
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Not enough room for it because of the tts sticker.
i was referring to my dodge,which doesnt have a tts sticker on it.i dont recall the dmax having one on it...:hug::hug::hug:
on the brighter side of things, there should be a good influx of cheap used ATS parts hitting the market soon:rofl:
WOW ......
If ATS did really do this, I think they missed with the knife. Rather than cutting the other people's neck, I think they cut their own bag.
:boxing:
On edit, this puts burkhart and some others in a tough spot? No?
If ATS did really do this, I think they missed with the knife. Rather than cutting the other people's neck, I think they cut their own bag.
:boxing:
On edit, this puts burkhart and some others in a tough spot? No?
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Anne Wick
U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (Mail Code 2242A)
Diesel Engine Consent Decree Coordinator
1200 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20460-0001
Dear Anne:
I would like to start by thanking you for speaking with Stewart Cables and myself at SEMA. You and your team did a very good job of preventing the meeting attendees from rioting!
As you may or may not be aware, ATS Diesel has been working on certain emission technologies to better our niche in the diesel community. Currently, we’re funding and developing a very expensive Diesel Particulate Filter (DPF) technology; this product will allow more efficient flow, resulting in better fuel mileage and lower emissions than today’s technology. ATS’ profits are funding the majority of this project’s development budget.
A serious concern that we have — and dramatically affects the development of our new high flow DPF -- is the presence of so-called “DPF Delete Kits” on the market. Right now consumers are looking for a solution to the problematic factory DPF exhaust systems, and a few companies out there are manufacturing and/or selling these DPF delete kits for a very low margin.
As you’re aware, the main problem with DPF delete kits is this: for every illegal kit sold, research money is not invested into a real “fix” for the consumer’s problem. EPA has made it clear to the diesel manufacturing industry, in no uncertain terms, that DPF removal is illegal. However, at this time, EPA has been unable to enforce its regulations to get these illegal DPF delete kits off the street. When we spoke a few weeks ago, you mentioned that the EPA can only enforce so many of its regulations right now, and it’s becoming increasingly difficult to track offenders (whether they be manufacturers, resellers, or end users).
ATS has prepared a list of the larger DPF Delete kit manufacturers and resellers, gleaned from our knowledge of the industry, for you. We’ve also included support documentation for your convenience. A few of these act as resellers (in place of manufacturers) in an attempt to hide behind a “shell corporation.” Performance Diesel, Inc. (“PDI”) in St. George, Utah is one of these companies. Jared Wittwer, the owner of PDI, is also the creator of H&S Performance, (www.hsperformance.net). All of these kits are assembled at PDI in Utah and sold through PDI as though H&S Performance manufactures them. Attached is a copy of one of the receipts PDI invoices on; the part number should easily be used to help track down additional units that PDI or H&S have sold over the last year. We have been told by PDI’s manager that they sell over 100 units per month.
ATS is relying on the EPA to enforce its rules on this matter so we can generate enough revenue to properly manufacture a “fix” to the DPF problem. The word in our industry is that 1) if you don’t manufacture, you are allowed to resell, install, and use, and 2) manufacturers or resellers can hide behind the “Race Only’ labeling that the products are sold under. The fact is, and as I’m sure you know, nearly all of these kits are being used for on road trucks. Thank you for taking the time to listen.
Clint Cannon and Stewart Cables
for ATS Diesel Performance
(for those of you wondering about the xxxxx'd out things)
U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (Mail Code 2242A)
Diesel Engine Consent Decree Coordinator
1200 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20460-0001
Dear Anne:
I would like to start by thanking you for speaking with Stewart Cables and myself at SEMA. You and your team did a very good job of preventing the meeting attendees from rioting!
As you may or may not be aware, ATS Diesel has been working on certain emission technologies to better our niche in the diesel community. Currently, we’re funding and developing a very expensive Diesel Particulate Filter (DPF) technology; this product will allow more efficient flow, resulting in better fuel mileage and lower emissions than today’s technology. ATS’ profits are funding the majority of this project’s development budget.
A serious concern that we have — and dramatically affects the development of our new high flow DPF -- is the presence of so-called “DPF Delete Kits” on the market. Right now consumers are looking for a solution to the problematic factory DPF exhaust systems, and a few companies out there are manufacturing and/or selling these DPF delete kits for a very low margin.
As you’re aware, the main problem with DPF delete kits is this: for every illegal kit sold, research money is not invested into a real “fix” for the consumer’s problem. EPA has made it clear to the diesel manufacturing industry, in no uncertain terms, that DPF removal is illegal. However, at this time, EPA has been unable to enforce its regulations to get these illegal DPF delete kits off the street. When we spoke a few weeks ago, you mentioned that the EPA can only enforce so many of its regulations right now, and it’s becoming increasingly difficult to track offenders (whether they be manufacturers, resellers, or end users).
ATS has prepared a list of the larger DPF Delete kit manufacturers and resellers, gleaned from our knowledge of the industry, for you. We’ve also included support documentation for your convenience. A few of these act as resellers (in place of manufacturers) in an attempt to hide behind a “shell corporation.” Performance Diesel, Inc. (“PDI”) in St. George, Utah is one of these companies. Jared Wittwer, the owner of PDI, is also the creator of H&S Performance, (www.hsperformance.net). All of these kits are assembled at PDI in Utah and sold through PDI as though H&S Performance manufactures them. Attached is a copy of one of the receipts PDI invoices on; the part number should easily be used to help track down additional units that PDI or H&S have sold over the last year. We have been told by PDI’s manager that they sell over 100 units per month.
ATS is relying on the EPA to enforce its rules on this matter so we can generate enough revenue to properly manufacture a “fix” to the DPF problem. The word in our industry is that 1) if you don’t manufacture, you are allowed to resell, install, and use, and 2) manufacturers or resellers can hide behind the “Race Only’ labeling that the products are sold under. The fact is, and as I’m sure you know, nearly all of these kits are being used for on road trucks. Thank you for taking the time to listen.
Clint Cannon and Stewart Cables
for ATS Diesel Performance
(for those of you wondering about the xxxxx'd out things)
I got a Pm from Bryan at ats over on dp? I don't know why I got one. My and a Mod did. I have nothing ats and don't know why I did. I just said if it weren't true there'd be someone explaining what is going on.
That's what I was trying to say how I thought it was amusing that somebody XXXed out that stuff.
Like you can't Google and find a name for somebody in the Government. That's the first thing I did..... what a title..... diesel whaa huh? :rofl:
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Kind of curious how many exhaust kits they have sold for newer trucks that eliminate the cat? Did they tell the owner of the truck that this was illegal and they recommend they leave the converter on?
Big surprise that ATS would pull this This should hopefully put the nail in the coffin, a simple name change like the other 10 or so won't fix it this time.
This should hopefully put the nail in the coffin, a simple name change like the other 10 or so won't fix it this time.
Before I came on here I saw this on Diesel bombers and posted on DP asking about it. I did not see another thread on it so if enough people keep posting threads on it they can remove it but if some one else post one maybe they will respond. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=282705
Maybe ATS can supply the Class 8 Market. :rofl:
The California Air Resources Board Friday adopted the strictest diesel emission standards in the nation, requiring expensive diesel particulate filters on rigs on a timetable, over objections the rule could hurt or shut down smaller trucking companies, the Associated Press reported.
Starting in 2011, the new rules will speed up the replacement of thousands of older trucks and buses that are not as clean as newer models that have tougher, federally mandated emissions standards, AP said.
Beginning Jan. 1, 2011, the rule will require truck owners to install diesel exhaust filters on their rigs, with nearly all vehicles upgraded by 2014, CARB said in a statement.
Truck owners also must replace engines older than the 2010 model year according to a staggered implementation schedule that extends from 2012 to 2022, the agency said.
Many trucking companies say they cannot afford to comply, including one trucker who estimated it would cost him $7 million to replace 26 of his 35 trucks by 2014, AP reported.
Ron Faulkner, president of Tulare, Calif.-based Faulkner Trucking, estimated it would cost $7 million to replace 26 of his 35 older trucks by 2014 and that he did not know if he could afford it, since his company turns a profit of just $50,000 a year, AP said.
The regulation came a day after CARB adopted a sweeping plan to reduce the state’s greenhouse gases, AP reported.
By Transport Topics
http://www.ttnews.com/articles/basetemplate.aspx?storyid=20976
The California Air Resources Board Friday adopted the strictest diesel emission standards in the nation, requiring expensive diesel particulate filters on rigs on a timetable, over objections the rule could hurt or shut down smaller trucking companies, the Associated Press reported.
Starting in 2011, the new rules will speed up the replacement of thousands of older trucks and buses that are not as clean as newer models that have tougher, federally mandated emissions standards, AP said.
Beginning Jan. 1, 2011, the rule will require truck owners to install diesel exhaust filters on their rigs, with nearly all vehicles upgraded by 2014, CARB said in a statement.
Truck owners also must replace engines older than the 2010 model year according to a staggered implementation schedule that extends from 2012 to 2022, the agency said.
Many trucking companies say they cannot afford to comply, including one trucker who estimated it would cost him $7 million to replace 26 of his 35 trucks by 2014, AP reported.
Ron Faulkner, president of Tulare, Calif.-based Faulkner Trucking, estimated it would cost $7 million to replace 26 of his 35 older trucks by 2014 and that he did not know if he could afford it, since his company turns a profit of just $50,000 a year, AP said.
The regulation came a day after CARB adopted a sweeping plan to reduce the state’s greenhouse gases, AP reported.
By Transport Topics
http://www.ttnews.com/articles/basetemplate.aspx?storyid=20976