The proof of the "unmailed" claim will be if anyone gets a letter from the EPA. The "other shops" weren't listed on the internet.
Should I lock this thread?
Should I lock this thread?
WOW. Read this.
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Yeah, I'd be suing my attorney if he wrote a letter like that without me asking for it.
Normally, I'll write the letter, send it to the attorney, then they will add/subtract before sending.
Renee? :rofl:
Hey what-ever still made for some good reading and I still have MY doubts. How come Clint travels with a lawyer?
This kind of reminds of the cable TV cheater box problem from a few years back.
Hey what-ever still made for some good reading and I still have MY doubts. How come Clint travels with a lawyer?
This kind of reminds of the cable TV cheater box problem from a few years back.
VERY good point WTF does a lawyer no about this subject anyway? Obviously he was LISTENING to a conversation at the least getting the subject matter.
no attorney in his right mind is going to write a letter on a clients behalf unless he is "held harmless", no client in his right is going to release that.
Secondly, unless ATS has in house councl how would the Attorney garner enough information to compose such a letter?
This is a mess.... The Attorneys will win for sure.
Secondly, unless ATS has in house councl how would the Attorney garner enough information to compose such a letter?
This is a mess.... The Attorneys will win for sure.
If you were a busy business owner and both of you were at the same meeting, I can see the owner saying to the attorney, "hey could you summarize what we talked about today and send it to me?" It's a reasonable scenario. I see such things at work.
If this is true, looks like the attorney wrote the most aggressive thing he could come up with, like he was trying to be a badass. That wouldn't surprise me either.
However, if I were in the owner's shoes, I would be having the attorney say it was so, in public.
On review: I can see an attorney making up the letter itself, but the list and the details, that would be a bit difficult to do without help from someone with a lot of knowledge of the industry. Maybe he is, dunno.
I did a Google on his name, you can find him on his firm's website. Says he likes to play golf.
If this is true, looks like the attorney wrote the most aggressive thing he could come up with, like he was trying to be a badass. That wouldn't surprise me either.
However, if I were in the owner's shoes, I would be having the attorney say it was so, in public.
On review: I can see an attorney making up the letter itself, but the list and the details, that would be a bit difficult to do without help from someone with a lot of knowledge of the industry. Maybe he is, dunno.
I did a Google on his name, you can find him on his firm's website. Says he likes to play golf.
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Stewart Cables is a Colorado licensed attorney who specializes in civil litigation and all corporate legal matters. Stewart also consults on business management issues, overseeing the general operation of a forty employee engineering, manufacturing, and sales company. (my bold, how interesting).
Stewart received his undergraduate BA degree in History from University of Colorado in Boulder. He went on to earn his Masters degree in Management and his Masters of Business Administration at the University of Denver's Daniels College of Business. Stewart then went directly to law school, graduating with a Juris Doctor from the University of Denver Sturm College of Law. While in law school, Stewart focused on corporate and federal statutory law.
Stewart has lived all over the country, ranging from Pennsylvania and New Hampshire on the east coast to Colorado and Alaska in the west. He is also an avid golfer, and loves to play courses all over Colorado.
Stewart Cables is a Colorado licensed attorney who specializes in civil litigation and all corporate legal matters. Stewart also consults on business management issues, overseeing the general operation of a forty employee engineering, manufacturing, and sales company. (my bold, how interesting).
Stewart received his undergraduate BA degree in History from University of Colorado in Boulder. He went on to earn his Masters degree in Management and his Masters of Business Administration at the University of Denver's Daniels College of Business. Stewart then went directly to law school, graduating with a Juris Doctor from the University of Denver Sturm College of Law. While in law school, Stewart focused on corporate and federal statutory law.
Stewart has lived all over the country, ranging from Pennsylvania and New Hampshire on the east coast to Colorado and Alaska in the west. He is also an avid golfer, and loves to play courses all over Colorado.
This is my first post on this subject. Franky I dont buy Clint's explaination. He has a rep' of screwing people just think Wade. I have a hard time beleiving this came from his inbox and never got sent. But it could have. As bad as he has screwed customers he seems to be just as good to his employees. So maybe one of them leaked it for him as an act of spite. But still the letter was written.
I understand business is a dog eat dog world. Does not make it right. Just be the better man and not a dog.
One more reason to go Suncoast IMHO.
I understand business is a dog eat dog world. Does not make it right. Just be the better man and not a dog.
One more reason to go Suncoast IMHO.
I see that as saying one of a few things:
*Clint knew about letter before he actually recieved it.
*Clint authorized the letter to be writen-attorney added names on his own.
*Clint knew it was sent-possibly didn't see final draft
*Clint is probably full of it..
Good research Matt! Wanna work for ATS ? I hear they are trying to research the need of a working hot rod smog device by reverse engineering ,IE call the smog police on your competitor!
If the rebuttal is indeed true, it looks like a 9 iron right into Clint's privates.
I dunno, in business, a lot of time you think up really aggressive and over-the-top ideas.
I mean, we daydream about sticking it to competitors all the time.
If you come up with a crazy idea and you decide not to act on it, then I don't think you're necessarily a bad guy.
Somehow getting all your thoughts floated to the internet is a serious security problem however, and leads to all kinds of bad juju.
I mean, come on, if I wrote diary of every politician I'd like to see spontaneously combust, and it got on the internet, I'd be in jail!
I mean, we daydream about sticking it to competitors all the time.
If you come up with a crazy idea and you decide not to act on it, then I don't think you're necessarily a bad guy.
Somehow getting all your thoughts floated to the internet is a serious security problem however, and leads to all kinds of bad juju.
I mean, come on, if I wrote diary of every politician I'd like to see spontaneously combust, and it got on the internet, I'd be in jail!
Hey Wade. Does Clint still make new employee's sign no-compete papers before he hires them? Like he did with Tadd Layton....which as we all know is the reason Elite Diesel is in Pueblo instead of Denver.
For those that don't know....Tadd had to sign apers saying if he left he wouldn't open a competing business within X amount of miles from ATS. I think it was 125...150 miles ? Wade might knowfor sure.
Just curious is that's still standard practice ?
For those that don't know....Tadd had to sign apers saying if he left he wouldn't open a competing business within X amount of miles from ATS. I think it was 125...150 miles ? Wade might knowfor sure.
Just curious is that's still standard practice ?
Non-compete agreements are difficult.
They seldom can be applied to non-management employees, and are often reversed in court.
It's hard for a judge to say you can't make a living in your occupation.
They seldom can be applied to non-management employees, and are often reversed in court.
It's hard for a judge to say you can't make a living in your occupation.