:rofl:. Bobo good point about hitting the bar with your head and no helmet. I think drag racing is dangerous period. We should be able to sign a waiver and compete at our own risk.
Street Duramax Trucks to be banned
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They aren't too fast, you're too old!
Do you really think nobody gets killed sled pulling?
MAX707;52068...We should be able to sign a waiver and compete at our own risk.[/QUOTE said:
The release you sign when you go to the dragstrip is exactly that.
Do you really think nobody gets killed sled pulling?
Dont be going off topic here Patty...
Save that for another day, its still early in the year:rofl::rofl::rofl::hug:
Dont be going off topic here Patty...
Save that for another day, its still early in the year:rofl::rofl::rofl::hug:
I hear they are going to make pullers put 1/4" blocker plates on the front and rear of the chargers so no pieces fly out. So what if it blocks all the air too?
I seen that rule, but we are already ahead of them, we are using clear plexy instead of solid steel so it will be fine.
Many good points have been made here about the cage deal. High HP trucks are just plain "unpredictable" with A/T Tires, at speeds, near or over 120 mph in the quarter. I have not raced my truck since last June. I felt it get loose at the 1,000 ft mark and considered it a wake up call for: better tires, a "CAGE" and a 5 point harness.
When you have a 7,000 lb hunk of metal, that get's going the wrong direction, it can require a lot of finese and luck to get it pointed back in the right direction.
Playing with 100 mph trap speed's is a whole different deal.
I don't have a cage in my truck. When I do I will go drag racing again.
Mainly, because they kicked me out last time I showed up.
Like many of you, I have counted pounds in search of a low e.t., but the cage is a good thing to have. One busted axle or blown tire will pay for the weight penalty.
When you have a 7,000 lb hunk of metal, that get's going the wrong direction, it can require a lot of finese and luck to get it pointed back in the right direction.
Playing with 100 mph trap speed's is a whole different deal.
I don't have a cage in my truck. When I do I will go drag racing again.
Mainly, because they kicked me out last time I showed up
.Like many of you, I have counted pounds in search of a low e.t., but the cage is a good thing to have. One busted axle or blown tire will pay for the weight penalty.
This question is just for my general knowledge. How many passes had this particular truck, setup as it currently was run when it crashed, been down the 1/4 mile? It appears to be going left when it left the lights. It looks like it wasn't setup properly.
Thanks.
Thanks.
Just another example of people going over the edge. Fix the track issues for safety before the vechicle. I am so sick of people wanting to make my life safer. If the sanctioned racing body at a particular event wants to make changes for their race, fine let them. Screw them though if they want to make me install unneeded equipment for my test/tune running. I am much more likely to be hit by lightning then crash my truck at the track. How many people die each year driving on the road? Just by racing on the track I have taken so many "unknowns" out of the equation I should be paid to run on the track.
If you are trying to run a 9 second car/truck, sure put in a cage if it makes you feel good. I don't care, but don't try to enforce your fears on me. I'll practice my test/tune somewhere else. KEEP YOUR SAFETY CONCERNS IN YOUR CLASS! I don't plan on a trailer queen, I have to drive mine for other things. I don't plan on going faster then 12.5 and only plan on doing it a couple times. What gives you the right to say I have to spend/install/fix/upgrade to your rules. I mean really how many people are running at these tracks? I have been to 5 race/tune days and have not seen over 10 truck running during the day. If you changed the rules only 1 of them would have been racing during any one of those days.
Sounds like alot of rhetoric, like the "next president guy." What was all his bs about the planet getting hotter from the exhaust coming from my automobile? Just grab some charts make a big stink talk about "fear" and "death." Everyone just nods and gets in line like the herd and the ones that go against the grain are considered out casts and have no idea what they are talking about.
Sorry just a rant, probably doesn't read well but I had to get it out. I have been reading all the threads on many sites about this and I couldn't hold it anymore. I'm all for safety but not for unjustified reasons.
If you are trying to run a 9 second car/truck, sure put in a cage if it makes you feel good. I don't care, but don't try to enforce your fears on me. I'll practice my test/tune somewhere else. KEEP YOUR SAFETY CONCERNS IN YOUR CLASS! I don't plan on a trailer queen, I have to drive mine for other things. I don't plan on going faster then 12.5 and only plan on doing it a couple times. What gives you the right to say I have to spend/install/fix/upgrade to your rules. I mean really how many people are running at these tracks? I have been to 5 race/tune days and have not seen over 10 truck running during the day. If you changed the rules only 1 of them would have been racing during any one of those days.
Sounds like alot of rhetoric, like the "next president guy." What was all his bs about the planet getting hotter from the exhaust coming from my automobile? Just grab some charts make a big stink talk about "fear" and "death." Everyone just nods and gets in line like the herd and the ones that go against the grain are considered out casts and have no idea what they are talking about.
Sorry just a rant, probably doesn't read well but I had to get it out. I have been reading all the threads on many sites about this and I couldn't hold it anymore. I'm all for safety but not for unjustified reasons.
I am gonna post on here as a bystander/viewer/enthusiast of diesels in general, and racing, pulling, etc.
I have never been a member of CompD and never will be. I skimmed through this thread, and from what I read, this all sounds like some BS. I have been to multiple events where I had friends driving vehicles other than dodge/cummins (from chevy dmax to GMC dmax, to fords with cummins in them). There have been times when I rooted for the duramax over the cummins or powerstroke, just because I knew the driver.
To take something like this into an account for the dodge guys being jealous that the other brands are catching up in performance is like (trying to think of metaphor for this but cant)... you guys get what I am trying to say. Sounds to me like the guys at compD are just a bunch of whiney biotches.
All said and done, I think this proposal they have going is BS and they should just freeball thier lives instead of living with thier panties in a bunch; all over a sport that we all enjoy.
I have never been a member of CompD and never will be. I skimmed through this thread, and from what I read, this all sounds like some BS. I have been to multiple events where I had friends driving vehicles other than dodge/cummins (from chevy dmax to GMC dmax, to fords with cummins in them). There have been times when I rooted for the duramax over the cummins or powerstroke, just because I knew the driver.
To take something like this into an account for the dodge guys being jealous that the other brands are catching up in performance is like (trying to think of metaphor for this but cant)... you guys get what I am trying to say. Sounds to me like the guys at compD are just a bunch of whiney biotches.
All said and done, I think this proposal they have going is BS and they should just freeball thier lives instead of living with thier panties in a bunch; all over a sport that we all enjoy.
as a memeber of comp d the diesel place and a few other sites i dont really see things the way you guys are seeing them.dont really know why as i assume i am reading the same things you guys are.i take a bit of offence to the southern republican east coast ass but imho better than a lfet coast liberal tree hugger,but this gets us no were.you mention showing up at there events and sticking it to them,this is what you need to do.come to the events and get to know these guys that you guys seem to hate over the net.we have no bigger supporters of our dmax racing efforts than the very people you speak off.i am sure il get lots of crap for posting here but i will continue to do so until i am asked not to.i will try to keep on topic...thanks...jessI would deffinateley support a boycott of any Racing Organization or Parts Distibutor/Manufacturer that doesnt take the how do we make this thing fair, but safe at the same time attitude. The CompD attitude (EastCoast/Southern Republican @$$hole) is disgracefull. These guys call themselves Diesel Enthusiast's and their over their trying to wage war on our sport and shoot it down! I think everybody on this site needs to go take a look at those threads so they too can really understand who these people are and see the pull they really have because of who they know! I think we all need to mount up and really stick it to them at a Race or Event they throw!
Do you believe 12-second pickups need a rollbar even though they have zero history of being a safety risk?
CompD staff, TS Performance, and Steve Cole of TTS has published this on board, and including claims the NHRA is after us, so the diesel community must inforce this now before the NHRA does it.
Earlier in this thread is a link to the DieselBombers discussion, and you can see some of the unedited statements. CompD edits and editorials the discussions.
It took a few efforts to get Tim of CompD to post a brief public disclaimer, but it certainly did not match his earlier posts.
Anyone who is supporting this is an enemy to this sport. Anyone who is actively working at getting these restrictions rammed down our throat is a traitor to their fellow enthusiasts.
This would all be different if 12 second Dmax crashes were common. Quite the contrary, they are way less common than the other kinds of racers in this performance zone.
To be honest, the sub-12 second Dmaxes have a good safety record.
Now the real question is Jess:
Where do you stand on this?
PS - You will not be banned on this board for thing you say on other boards. This is not true for CompD. Nor will you be banned for your opinion alone. Ditto.
At this time i see no reason to change the rules as pertains to 12 second trucks at this time.however i do think we should start looking at tires to make sure they are rated for the speeds being made by the vehicle,not the class.
i dont see like it that pat,i see them as saying we need to be safe and look at the features we have.and see if they are safe enough.my vote would be lets be proactive not reactive..ie..lets let the nadm get sfi to do some research testing and see what they find.cant hurt to know.
i have not went to the db thread i will check it out later,so i can only ASSUME and you know haow that goes that the mods had a reason for doing it if they did.
in talking with Tim from day 1 within 20 minutes or the wreck he never told me he thought 12 sec trucks needed bars or cages.in fact the thread was supposed to be about the fastest of the trucks and the next thing you know people were throwing out ideas on 12 sec truck.i dont follow there thoughts. to imply that Tim is trying to destroy racing to keep the dmax down is stupid
i dont think anyone is activley trying to to get these rules rammed down anyones throat.i have spoken with david dunbar personally on this and will talk with randy cole and dunbar together this weekend.when i spoke to DD he had no interest in caging or baring 12 sec trucks only looking at trucks like casper,caged furry,greem n machine ect..however findings on these trucks can find strenghs or weaknesses that will trickle down to the slower classes.
why woukld you feel these rules are against 12 sec dmaxes only and not 12 sec cummins oor for that fact a 12 sec psd...ie the cheapest diesel to get ino the 12s..also i want t point out i dont think they are after any one.my point of view.
as i have said earlier in this post,with my current knowledge which isnt much more than anyone else i think we need to keep things like they are until we find info,repeatable backed up not just math,cause a math guy can always develop a formula to prove his point i will keep this beleif.that being said before this race ruuning 11 sec on a set of all terains never made me think twice,it does now i bought a set of speed rated tires just for racing.also for our race i will be checking over truck closer than i did last year to look for safety issues,however if they pass nhra /ihra specs they will be allowed to race.
i am glad i want be banned from here or have my post edited,but i must admit i have never been banned from any were and post have only been edited to remove a misploaced swear word from time to time.
i am sorry for your bad experience with some of the eastern guys Pat but others cant form there opinions off of your experience,they have to mmet folks and form there own opinions.we are all different in person.i have invited you and Kat out to nc for the last 2 years and il am telling you in advance il invite you next year again.sooner or later we will all get on the same page and figure out how to get along..
I to still frequent the DP because there is not this kind of nonsense. I guess your interpretation of the words and attitudes over on CompD are different. That's cool it's a free country! You will never get asked not to post here because this site does not promote the rules and attitudes of Forums like CompD and DPR. Dont worry people will not read your PM's (Private Mesaages) like sneaks. This is a DuramaxDiesel Forum here for grown folks. We do not encourage rule changes to screw over certain groups of racers. I have not been on CompD for awhile and dont think I will return! Also it's kind of hard to take road trips for event back East or Down South when diesel is $4.35 a gallon
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So Pat, you edit your own post instead of leaving up all the accusations you just spewed at other websites, vendors and competitors but if someone on another site edits a post they are hiding something ?
I dare you Pat, on your own board, to repost what you just deleted.
Your grand delusions and conspiracy BS would almost be comical if you weren't insulting so many good people in the process.
Guess I'll test that banning theory, although by doing so Pat would become what he despises. Heaven forbid someone disagree with him.
With all due respect Pat, you need to seriously reassess your involvement in this sport. Instead of moving the sport forward you have done nothing but alienate 99% of the diesel community with your incessant whining and complaining. The other 1% are here, drinking the Kool Aid.
I dare you Pat, on your own board, to repost what you just deleted.
Your grand delusions and conspiracy BS would almost be comical if you weren't insulting so many good people in the process.
Guess I'll test that banning theory, although by doing so Pat would become what he despises. Heaven forbid someone disagree with him.
With all due respect Pat, you need to seriously reassess your involvement in this sport. Instead of moving the sport forward you have done nothing but alienate 99% of the diesel community with your incessant whining and complaining. The other 1% are here, drinking the Kool Aid.
thats a far streetch there....
and yes i did read his post prior to him deleted his OWN stuff...
too me 75% of the communtiy goes off the handle on oneside of the pot.. at least on compD
20% go off the handle on the other side of the pot and
that leave the 5% still roughly in the middle.
booth side bring up exceellant points..... and i agree that there have been soem shady stuff in the past......
