WOW. Read this.

serpa4

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So, how do you release a letter to the EPA that you don't want to take credit for? Post it yourself, or have someone else post via leak. Invite EPA to forum to read the letter you didn’t post, then post story on how you didn't post it (which technically you didn’t), and the still get desired results: names and "illegal" kits being sold information to epa and have plausible deniability that you didn't want that letter released. So, save your reputation and notify EPA(goal achieved) because someone leaked info which you didn’t approve (bail out).
 

SIKDMAX

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ROFL! It just came out that this Stewart guy, attorney, is the OPERATIONS MANAGER Of ATS! :rofl::rofl::rofl:

Didnt Bryan JUST post this morning that this guy is in no way affiliated with ATS, and is a "contractor"???? Busted.
 

paint94979

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ROFL! It just came out that this Stewart guy, attorney, is the OPERATIONS MANAGER Of ATS! :rofl::rofl::rofl:

Didnt Bryan JUST post this morning that this guy is in no way affiliated with ATS, and is a "contractor"???? Busted.

We know ATS is full of shit, personally I hope they reap the rewards of their actions:mad:
 

Rhall

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Jury's still out from the looks of things. IMO, its starting to get bloody.

In the end its just another reason Im glad I own a non-emissions LB7...EPA cant touch that.

Well you can say its cause of the EPA, or you can just admit the real reason, cause lb7s are the best!:D
 

paint94979

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Well you can say its cause of the EPA, or you can just admit the real reason, cause lb7s are the best!:D

Are you high?:D I agree it is a shame but like I have always thought never trust purple automotive parts there is something fruity going on there.
 

Turbotug

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Some areas, like Phx, only do a tailpipe test once it reaches 5 years old. :D

IIRC, it's NOX and an IR particulate test. Even with a small tune it should pass..
 

MACKIN

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We have it here also and it ranges from a sniff of the tailpipe to OBD and up on the rollers to full closed loop emission testing.

Also new cars are exempt for 3 maybe 4 years and anything 25 years old or greater and diesel over 10k GVW which I fall into.

I believe diesel are only sniffed at the tailpipe. So actually most tunes would NOT effect the outcome. Time will tell if they change that although
 

MACKIN

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Looks like the whole ATS thing is running out of gas. Any way you cut it to me it looks like ATS is or was looking for some kind of deal with the EPA. Perhaps because of the changes that are coming and perhaps they are looking to go the way of Banks and be greener with power adders.

I also believe that the OP manager aka lawyer and Clint were some how looking for a deal with the EPA . Possibly for funding or even leiniency if some kind of legal action were to take place. This is all pure speculation.

Seems to me although the OP manager through conversing in the rough draft went to far with it looking like a 'snitch' type deal. Probably not their intent but one NEVER knows in business. One thing for certain it sure is a mess.

Any and all of it makes no sense for a company like ATS to be even dealing WITH the EPA.
 

duramaximizer

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One thing for certain it sure is a mess.

Any and all of it makes no sense for a company like ATS to be even dealing WITH the EPA.

My thoughts exactly. I am going to start my own fundamentalist group for enthusiasts in washington....the was good for a while.....and IMO are like unions. Their time has come and gone... but they're still here.

08's are clean enough that the air coming out the tail pipe is cleaner than the air going in the air intake, and that's good enough for me.
 

partsguy662

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LMAO, You have about the same sence of humor my UPS guy has, today I got even with a snowball. (He said he had a special delivery the other day and nailed me!) Anyway, the new LED tail lights he's getting for Christmas should get me back onto the early part of his route :D

I didn't know you swung that way, Wade....Does you wife know about you and the UPS man?

:rofl:
 

Rhall

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Anybody want to buy an ATS Twin cp3 kit for $500...








































:rofl: Yea right, or ill just peel the ats sticker off the controller.:D I wouldnt have it if i didnt get if for next to nothing.;)

Rob