who sell arias pistons?

LBZrcks

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From a PTW (piston to wall) stand point thats about average, 9-12 thou is where most of your True forged pistons are reccomended to run at, blown and turbo should run more in a gasser, dont let the extra clearance bother you too much. It will tighten up when running.

but for the mahle being so small of a clearence makes me wonder of the material.....

True forged pistons can handle more heat hence the need for more clearence...or room for Growth

So what is not "True Forged"? Half cast and half forged?:rolleyes:

Maybe it is a different material that is the same if not stronger as what the other manufactures are using with one of the benefits being a lesser growth rate.
 

Stingpuller

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It is a different material. Piston company's use 2 types with forged pistons. One with more silicon in it with less growth but its more brittle. I believe its a 2618 aluminum. Jeff
 

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It is a different material. Piston company's use 2 types with forged pistons. One with more silicon in it with less growth but its more brittle. I believe its a 2618 aluminum. Jeff

DIND,DING,DING............Thats correct, only the 2000 series is whats better for high temp and high psi.

Here is a tech brief from the best piston manufacture in the world of Drag

Piston Tech Briefing

Bill Miller Engineering Forged Aluminum Racing Pistons are made with forged, 2618-T61 aluminum. BME has used 2618 for almost 25 years because Bill Miller believes it to be the best choice when strength and durability are the prime considerations.


Another reason racers pick BME as their piston supplier is attention to detail. This set of racing pistons is being built for Drag Racing megastar, John Force, but whether it's pistons for Force or just your average bracket racer, every Bill Miller Engineering piston gets the same care taken in its manufacture.

Many other piston manufacturers use a silicon-aluminum alloy, such as 4032 or MS75. Pistons made from that have good wear characteristics because the silicon particulate's hardness improves the piston skirt's durability, however silicon is, also, their downfall because it makes pistons brittle. Through extensive race track testing, BME found that silicon-aluminum alloys, because they are brittle, are prone to fracturing when subjected to extreme loads. The failure rate of silicon alloy pistons in severe-duty, racing applications is fairly high.


In the tongs is a BME raw forging that has just come out of the forging die. Just right of the piston blank in the tongs is a chunk of aluminum bar stock that will go into the forge on the next cycle. The forging temperature is 800 deg. F and it applies a force of 18,000 tons to forge a piston.



This gets worse. With pistons made of brittle, silicon-aluminum alloys, once a crack starts; it doesn’t stop until the piston suffers a catastrophic failure. In the rare case of a crack in a BME, 2618-T61 piston, once the crack reaches an area of lower stress; it stops, making failure less likely
 

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DIND,DING,DING............Thats correct, only the 2000 series is whats better for high temp and high psi.

Here is a tech brief from the best piston manufacture in the world of Drag

Piston Tech Briefing

Bill Miller Engineering Forged Aluminum Racing Pistons are made with forged, 2618-T61 aluminum. BME has used 2618 for almost 25 years because Bill Miller believes it to be the best choice when strength and durability are the prime considerations.


Another reason racers pick BME as their piston supplier is attention to detail. This set of racing pistons is being built for Drag Racing megastar, John Force, but whether it's pistons for Force or just your average bracket racer, every Bill Miller Engineering piston gets the same care taken in its manufacture.

Many other piston manufacturers use a silicon-aluminum alloy, such as 4032 or MS75. Pistons made from that have good wear characteristics because the silicon particulate's hardness improves the piston skirt's durability, however silicon is, also, their downfall because it makes pistons brittle. Through extensive race track testing, BME found that silicon-aluminum alloys, because they are brittle, are prone to fracturing when subjected to extreme loads. The failure rate of silicon alloy pistons in severe-duty, racing applications is fairly high.


In the tongs is a BME raw forging that has just come out of the forging die. Just right of the piston blank in the tongs is a chunk of aluminum bar stock that will go into the forge on the next cycle. The forging temperature is 800 deg. F and it applies a force of 18,000 tons to forge a piston.



This gets worse. With pistons made of brittle, silicon-aluminum alloys, once a crack starts; it doesn’t stop until the piston suffers a catastrophic failure. In the rare case of a crack in a BME, 2618-T61 piston, once the crack reaches an area of lower stress; it stops, making failure less likely

yea mahle knows nothing about raceing or makeing parts tht last do they :rolleyes:
 

sweetdiesel

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From a PTW (piston to wall) stand point thats about average, 9-12 thou is where most of your True forged pistons are reccomended to run at, blown and turbo should run more in a gasser, dont let the extra clearance bother you too much. It will tighten up when running.

but for the mahle being so small of a clearence makes me wonder of the material.....

True forged pistons can handle more heat hence the need for more clearence...or room for Growth

i agree

My Guess is they run a high silicon content like a hyper piston. Jeff

good guess!

If it truly is a daily driver I would go with cast. Jeff

we are going to try a set as a DD.....building this winter, with the price of the Arias over even a stock piston we are going to take the gamble!
 

sweetdiesel

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The arias pistons on my truck have taken a shit kicken over the last 3 years.

i did a compression test today and will pull the heads and inspect the valves and rings this winter. I was told that Hellfire rings are junk by steve cole and it really worried me years ago. But my motor has lasted so far....yet compression test shows it neeeds work!
 

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There all talk and no action Henry :hello: :rofl:

Just dont mess with Simon , he will woop your ass for 20 Peso's :rofl: :rofl:


By the time he is done he will need to pack a big lunch and alot of drinks. That alone would cost him more then the 20 Peso's :spit: