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Trailer runs 215/75/17.5 tires at @220 each and 150k life. The 225/70/19.5 I ran on my red dually steers I got 150-175k at ~200 each. Drives I got 100-110k at 250each.. I'm stuck running a pick up and delivery tire in a OTR setting. These cooper at3 I paid 1100 for 6. I'm expecting 50-60k out of them. I'm at 70-75% tread left at ~25k. Been told guys have gotten 100k.. See how well the last in snow and ice this winter.
Short block rebuild on a dmax. Bore n balance 4500 with new pistons.. Been there done that.
Mpg I avg 11.5.
I have talked to several o/o with setups like this.. Without penning them the more money they make to the truck compared to mine doesn't offset the $0.40-0.60 increase in operating cost
This guy plates 73k
This guy talked to him tonight. Plates 55k and can only put 20-23k on deck. The longer service life parts doesn't offset the fuel and road tax he has to pay vs me at 36k
Sleeper.. Yeah cost more to stay in the hotel... But I don't have to deal with the truck rifft raft in truck stops, I have anything from twin to king size bed and a shitter and shower with in 8 feet of my bed
Short block rebuild on a dmax. Bore n balance 4500 with new pistons.. Been there done that.
Mpg I avg 11.5.
I have talked to several o/o with setups like this.. Without penning them the more money they make to the truck compared to mine doesn't offset the $0.40-0.60 increase in operating cost
This guy plates 73k
This guy talked to him tonight. Plates 55k and can only put 20-23k on deck. The longer service life parts doesn't offset the fuel and road tax he has to pay vs me at 36k
Sleeper.. Yeah cost more to stay in the hotel... But I don't have to deal with the truck rifft raft in truck stops, I have anything from twin to king size bed and a shitter and shower with in 8 feet of my bed
we post 40k on the lml and 30k on the lbz the lb7's were both at 36k.
We ran a sport chassis freightshaker, fuel consumption was 3-5 mpg loaded at 75mph with a 3126, the lb7 at the time pulled the same load and was at 7-9 mpg at 75-80 mph
Tires are our biggest issue, no matter what we spend on tires the 16 and 17 just will not hold up to the miles and weight. Also trailers just keep getting larger, we hve pulled 48's for 12 years now the first one was a 6'8" wide and the new one is an 8' wide, old one had cross members on 24 the new s cross members on 8" this added about 2500 pounds somehow to empty weight.
Our new issue s the front end on the LML is having a lot of issues, the pin weight is up 2250 lbs from our old trailer, the tire are cupping hard and the front end is shaking hard when unloaded. when loaded with 6 horses (large quarter horses 1500-1800lbs) 200 gallon of dark water and 200 fresh, 50 bales of hay and 2 pallet of pellets we are hitting the scales just under 40k gcw. The trailer is being sent in for a third axle which will equalize the pin weight some but it wont be till February when we have enough down time. We ar hoping the air bags will help it out some, we shall see.
What pisses me off is ram and ford putting gcwr over cdl weight and I know of 2 little gals pulling over cdl weight with the their new trucks, they have no business doing so, hopefully the law will stop them soon. But these ratings coming out are giving people this false sence of security with huge loads. It takes skill from experience to pull at or above gcw ratings.
We ran a sport chassis freightshaker, fuel consumption was 3-5 mpg loaded at 75mph with a 3126, the lb7 at the time pulled the same load and was at 7-9 mpg at 75-80 mph
Tires are our biggest issue, no matter what we spend on tires the 16 and 17 just will not hold up to the miles and weight. Also trailers just keep getting larger, we hve pulled 48's for 12 years now the first one was a 6'8" wide and the new one is an 8' wide, old one had cross members on 24 the new s cross members on 8" this added about 2500 pounds somehow to empty weight.
Our new issue s the front end on the LML is having a lot of issues, the pin weight is up 2250 lbs from our old trailer, the tire are cupping hard and the front end is shaking hard when unloaded. when loaded with 6 horses (large quarter horses 1500-1800lbs) 200 gallon of dark water and 200 fresh, 50 bales of hay and 2 pallet of pellets we are hitting the scales just under 40k gcw. The trailer is being sent in for a third axle which will equalize the pin weight some but it wont be till February when we have enough down time. We ar hoping the air bags will help it out some, we shall see.
What pisses me off is ram and ford putting gcwr over cdl weight and I know of 2 little gals pulling over cdl weight with the their new trucks, they have no business doing so, hopefully the law will stop them soon. But these ratings coming out are giving people this false sence of security with huge loads. It takes skill from experience to pull at or above gcw ratings.
Manufacturer gross is a recommendation and to get people who think they know what they are doing and at a min. Similar reason why most trailer companies don't mention pin weight when they put the gross trailer weight on the side...
Big block,
Your steers scrubbing as of they are under underinflated? My red dually never did, my LMM does.. I chalked it up to ~30" shorter (133)"wheelbase and 16" tires
Axle weight trumps. GVR can not exceed combined axle ratings.. Until you don't have enough HP to maintain safe road speed of the roads you're driving.
Touche lol. I get myself into some tight situations with a semi when I'm hungry lol.I can do this easily
Federal regulations state you need a CDL when operating over 26k in Commerce (for hire). RVs and hauling personal stuff is exempt.
The way the ratings work is you cannot exceed any of the numbers. If you have a steer axle rated for 16k and you put tires on it that are only rated for 6k each then 12k is your front axle limit. The tires, rims, axle and other items all have a max weight stamped on them.
You can never exceed a component weight rating whether it's a simple tire or the GVWR.
You also cannot exceed the legal weight limits even of they are under your component limits. For a typical 80k tractor trailer the limit is 80k gross, 12k front axle, 34k drives, 34k trailer. You slide the trailer axles and the 5th wheel plate on the truck to adjust the weight some if needed. Length of the truck and the trailer also play a role because you have to also meet the bridge law in many states. This law is just like what it sounds. Basically you look at the chart, find he number of axles in your group then on the other axis go down to the distance from that set of axles to the next set and the chart will tell you how much you are allowed. Federally this is the law but many states have their own laws. Michigan is a good example of a state that does not use the bridge laws. They allow up to 160k without special permits if you have the axles. In WI we have special laws for milk haulers and loggers.
Of course non divisible over weight loads apply for a permit and have to show the route they will be taking. They still have to have the proper axle setup to get the permit though.
Clear as mud? That's why there's a lot of people who make good money running businesses that simply handle compliance and permits for trucking companies. It's a pain to stay on top of it all.
I rolled across the scales with this load. It's 16k plus pound boat. Troopers had scales setup on highway right in front of my house. Don't know how I didn't get a fine. They looked everything over and motioned me on. Still had yellowfin tuna blood on the decks! This was the last overnight trip of the season. She is now stored away in my shop.
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Speaking of nice boats, hee is a pic of the one I saw yesterday on my trip to Minnesota to pickup a locker and Hutch for my toolbox.
Not sure if anyone on here has heard of Eilen & Sons but they run a large trucking company and win a lot of national shows with their show trucks. All of their trucks are immaculate. Needless to say, they like nice things.
This boat was parked next to one of their houses.
Clear as mud, check. :rofl:
So, say I have a big ass trailer, and I haul around 35k lb of personal race car crap.. thats perfectly legal for a non CDL as long as I do not exceed a length and weight limit of axle/tire combos?
Interesting.
You don't need a CDL but you do need a USDOT number to haul personal race cars and other motorsports vehicles. That is assuming you want to be a legal Eagle. It's a Grey area, this is a situation where I like to quote Dave Chappell in his best white man voice, "I'm sorry officer I didn't know I couldn't do that".
Interesting, so how does Uhaul or any other trailer rental place get away with renting car haulers to anyone?
(sorry for the derail)
You can haul your own cars all you want. Not to mention it's not u hauls job to determine what you do with their trailer. You are the one responsible for being legal. The legal issues come into play when you are hauling a competition vehicle somewhere with the potential to win money. It's very stupid and I would just say that I never make money, but they've been pinching a lot of tractor pullers and racers in our area.