So not to be all n00b status but if you are doing 36k GCWR, how is that allowed if GM says GCWR is lower? DOT doesn't care as long as you don't overload axles?
Edit: Nevermind, the GM numbers are for a non commercial licensee right?
So as a non commercial driver, I cannot exceed GM stick for GCWR or does weight on axles trump that?
Touche lol. I get myself into some tight situations with a semi when I'm hungry lol.I can do this easily
Federal regulations state you need a CDL when operating over 26k in Commerce (for hire). RVs and hauling personal stuff is exempt.So as a non commercial driver, I cannot exceed GM stick for GCWR or does weight on axles trump that?
Speaking of nice boats, hee is a pic of the one I saw yesterday on my trip to Minnesota to pickup a locker and Hutch for my toolbox.Very nice boat :thumb:
Federal regulations state you need a CDL when operating over 26k in Commerce (for hire). RVs and hauling personal stuff is exempt.
The way the ratings work is you cannot exceed any of the numbers. If you have a steer axle rated for 16k and you put tires on it that are only rated for 6k each then 12k is your front axle limit. The tires, rims, axle and other items all have a max weight stamped on them.
You can never exceed a component weight rating whether it's a simple tire or the GVWR.
You also cannot exceed the legal weight limits even of they are under your component limits. For a typical 80k tractor trailer the limit is 80k gross, 12k front axle, 34k drives, 34k trailer. You slide the trailer axles and the 5th wheel plate on the truck to adjust the weight some if needed. Length of the truck and the trailer also play a role because you have to also meet the bridge law in many states. This law is just like what it sounds. Basically you look at the chart, find he number of axles in your group then on the other axis go down to the distance from that set of axles to the next set and the chart will tell you how much you are allowed. Federally this is the law but many states have their own laws. Michigan is a good example of a state that does not use the bridge laws. They allow up to 160k without special permits if you have the axles. In WI we have special laws for milk haulers and loggers.
Of course non divisible over weight loads apply for a permit and have to show the route they will be taking. They still have to have the proper axle setup to get the permit though.
Clear as mud? That's why there's a lot of people who make good money running businesses that simply handle compliance and permits for trucking companies. It's a pain to stay on top of it all.
Clear as mud, check. :rofl:
So, say I have a big ass trailer, and I haul around 35k lb of personal race car crap.. thats perfectly legal for a non CDL as long as I do not exceed a length and weight limit of axle/tire combos?
Interesting.
You don't need a CDL but you do need a USDOT number to haul personal race cars and other motorsports vehicles. That is assuming you want to be a legal Eagle. It's a Grey area, this is a situation where I like to quote Dave Chappell in his best white man voice, "I'm sorry officer I didn't know I couldn't do that".
You can haul your own cars all you want. Not to mention it's not u hauls job to determine what you do with their trailer. You are the one responsible for being legal. The legal issues come into play when you are hauling a competition vehicle somewhere with the potential to win money. It's very stupid and I would just say that I never make money, but they've been pinching a lot of tractor pullers and racers in our area.Interesting, so how does Uhaul or any other trailer rental place get away with renting car haulers to anyone?
(sorry for the derail)