Top 25 Stock Duramax's
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I agree. Done.
Holy crap! My truck is over 1200 lbs heavier than yours.
So, I know I have said this numerous times before, but I still say the only rules should be fuel only, stock CP3, and stock turbo. Those are the "hard limits" for air and fuel (the two things that determine horsepower potential in a diesel). I still totally do not get why injectors are not allowed. You can get extrude honed tips for $350, but a set of upgraded up pipes is $500. Sure, they're harder to do in an LB7, but how many LB7s still have the stock factory installed injectors? It totally boggles my mind why guys are so against injectors.
I agree on the injectors. Your still limited on how much fuel you can go by the cp3.
I wont comment on injectors other than to say there'd be some position changes on the list.....
I think it's mostly guys on the list that still have stock injectors that don't want them allowed...I wont comment on injectors other than to say there'd be some position changes on the list.....
It was other "people" with no dog in the hunt that complained and raised the stink, but it was enough to start a firestorm. I think only one person actually on the list said something against them.
We could argue this til the cows come home and never make any headway on what "IS" and "ISNT" allowed.
I finally got the rollpan painted....ready to be reinstalled Friday.
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I wont comment on injectors other than to say there'd be some position changes on the list.....
It was other "people" with no dog in the hunt that complained and raised the stink, but it was enough to start a firestorm. I think only one person actually on the list said something against them.
We could argue this til the cows come home and never make any headway on what "IS" and "ISNT" allowed.
I finally got the rollpan painted....ready to be reinstalled Friday.
I think injectors should be allowed. IIRC the reason people had a problem with injectors being allowed was because the list started out not allowing them and then the rules changed.
Hell it is your list Tom, do whatever you want who cares what everyone else says.
Unfortunately, its not my decision. This list was actually started by RickLance at his site. It took on a whole life of its own when I posted it over at DP. I ended up being the guy who updated it when new times came in, so everyone thought I was the guy who started it in the first place. Cant take that credit.
I had always assumed (what does that get you?) from old posts at DP that Spruill's 12.18 (the time to beat for 4 years) was done with 20% and modded CP3. I asked Jess, and he couldnt really remember what they were doing that long ago, so it was never questioned.
That was the reason I went with the tips when I had the injectors redone....my assumption. But...I got read the riot act for the 12.14 b/c of the tips, so things reverted back. Hence why I wish I had left the injectors alone.
Heck, I was simply on a mission to beat Jeremy's 12.34 back then. Never even thought about a 12.teen, let alone an 11.9x. Shoot, times like that were a pipedream 3 years ago. Talk about making headway in Dmax performance over the years. Damn.
I had always assumed (what does that get you?) from old posts at DP that Spruill's 12.18 (the time to beat for 4 years) was done with 20% and modded CP3. I asked Jess, and he couldnt really remember what they were doing that long ago, so it was never questioned.
That was the reason I went with the tips when I had the injectors redone....my assumption. But...I got read the riot act for the 12.14 b/c of the tips, so things reverted back. Hence why I wish I had left the injectors alone.
Heck, I was simply on a mission to beat Jeremy's 12.34 back then. Never even thought about a 12.teen, let alone an 11.9x. Shoot, times like that were a pipedream 3 years ago. Talk about making headway in Dmax performance over the years. Damn.
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I wont comment on injectors other than to say there'd be some position changes on the list.....
I finally got the rollpan painted....ready to be reinstalled Friday.
looks great. I've been looking for a used one myself. they're expensive if they're not steel
Stocker
I'm all for injectors if that's what everyone want's. I think it should stay stock but it really doesn't matter to me. I'm getting ready to put my stock motor back in mine and put it all back to stock after this weekend. I'm building a new racer and mine will be stock again. I would like to know what's leagal before I put it back in. When I went 12.15 it was a totally stock takeout motor from a total. I'd like to do a mod pump,injectors,manifolds hell even a cheetah its still a stock housing! I reaaly don't think that would be stock but you guy's tell me. Jeff
I'm all for injectors if that's what everyone want's. I think it should stay stock but it really doesn't matter to me. I'm getting ready to put my stock motor back in mine and put it all back to stock after this weekend. I'm building a new racer and mine will be stock again. I would like to know what's leagal before I put it back in. When I went 12.15 it was a totally stock takeout motor from a total. I'd like to do a mod pump,injectors,manifolds hell even a cheetah its still a stock housing! I reaaly don't think that would be stock but you guy's tell me. Jeff
Things that remain stock, Cp3 and turbo. Injectors, intercoolers, fans, anything that can save weight or "free up" hp that is there already and make the engine live an easier life should be allowed. Thats my opinion. Also trucks should be daily drivers, not "race" trucks. If you have to get inside your motor for whatever reason than it should be put back together with stock heads as in no port work and cam.
Agreed, but you're going to have to be one hell of a politician to get that past the masses.
Just do twins, they're stock on a Ford. :thumb:
Hence why I dislike sled pulling a lot of times, and life for that matter.
Why not just start a new list for slightly modded stock trucks. Make your own list of mods excepted? It would be your list, your rules.....:thumb:
I think we all.need to.come to a agreement about the.injectors. I would.like to do my injectors this winter but am.holding back because I want to stay on this list. I think.we should have a poll or a vote and get a answer out of everyone on the list if possible. I vote yes on nozzles because i agree that u r limited by your cp3
I have no dog in the fight as I think stock turbos suck LOL... I say the only requirement is stock cp3 and stock turbo.