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TheBac

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It's really sad most kids these days, that know nothing of working on vehicles. Then they get into diesels and think they are certified mechanics. They don't know how nor do they care about doing something right so they're just like looks good to me and go with it. O well as long as they pay me to fix it who cares lol.

Thats why Im so happy my son is showing interest in doing all his repairwork himself (with me being "consultant", of course :rofl:) Its the only way they learn. Its how I learned.

x2 on how impressive Adam's picture was.
 

TheBac

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Probably had to warranty/replace a whole lot of those rams. Saving pennies there cost millions later.
 

Dozerboy

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They ran into something. No way under pressure it could bend like that.

It takes more then that to do that. It was rammed by something very big or going very fast. I have rammed large loaders into 10'x10' section of concrete in a pile that where 1' thick to try and break them up so I would load them into truck. I've never did that before, but I have broken the Z arms before. Those are the vertical arms thats those rams connect to on the left of the pic.
 

malibu795

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Not one of the worst I've seen..... See who can figure out what's wrong ;)
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malibu795

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For those that haven't figured it out... Useing my truck as an illustration..
How the guy chained his Tahoe down in the front.. Notice where the binders are in relation to the tow hooks.. The chain is tight up against the license plate area.. And it only one contact point.. You'd be better off not the thread the second tow hook. This is just one big loop.. With a load capacity of 4700lbs with 5/16" G70 chain
And only front to rear control, and betting on friction to control left to right movement.
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Correct way, same chain as before, but now we have 2 tie downs instead of 1. Each tie down is rated at 4700lb for combined total of 9400lbs worth of tie downs.. On one end.. Law for vehicles is 4 tie down points.
Do the same for the rear. One could put the trailer and vehicle on its side and the vehicle will not move.. The first way the vehicle will slide.
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In the first picture you have 2 contact points.. You loose one and your down to 1,
2nd picture you have 4 loose one and you down to 3 and your fine
 

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That's still wrong though Adam.
Never use the tow hooks.

Tie down with wheel straps is the best way.
Tieing above the suspension leads to broken parts and broken/loose straps/chains.
If it's a solid front axle and you don't have wheel straps use the axle and cross chain wherever possible.

Even in our IFS trucks it's better to use the LCA than the frame or tow hooks.

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malibu795

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That's still wrong though Adam.
Never use the tow hooks.

Tie down with wheel straps is the best way.
Tieing above the suspension leads to broken parts and broken/loose straps/chains.
If it's a solid front axle and you don't have wheel straps use the axle and cross chain wherever possible.

Even in our IFS trucks it's better to use the LCA than the frame or tow hooks.

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I compress the suspension to eliminate bounce. Especially the heavy part of the vehicle.

Normally I chain rear frame first idle truck forward agianst the chains.. That will squat the rear.. Then chain front while idled against the rear chains..
Once front chains are set. Put truck in neutral allowing the truck to put equal force on chains front to rear then park.

If there isn't any good spots on the rear I do same thing with the front idle backwards and chain the rear axle..

If you don't load the suspension you risk damage to vehice, and load securement.. Due to compression of the suspension then hard stop on rebound.

I loathe hooking LCA.. It's a moving item.. No mater how tight you get it.. It still goes up and down.

Either you chain the frame down tight enough keep from bouncing or you use wheel straps
 

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No matter how much you tighten it down you will never load the suspension enough to keep it from bouncing unless you tie straight down and even then the amount of force needed would be ridiculous. It's hard to even do it with an atv.
And it's hard on suspension parts, chains, the tie down point, etc.

I've tied many around the LCA. Right at the ball joint end. Movement is minimal there.

But as I said, wheel straps are the best way and they aren't really that much. Over all easiest on the vehicle.

You don't even need straps. It can be done with chains-a little harder on the wheel finish though lol.
 

Dozerboy

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Oh no the tie down police....;) While that might be the best way its far from bad. in fact its pretty good. If you read the regulation there are 2 that contradict themselves. One that calls that one point and one that calls that 2 points. Unless they finely rewrote them since its been several years since I bothered to read them.

Also do you see the chains behind the front tire too? He did a pretty good job.
 

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I use two straps up front, each around a lca, and two in rear, each looped around the axle. This may not be "correct" but it's never given me an issue...


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