New Product!!! GM Duramax Deep oil pan

[S Phinney]

From what I have heard here Dan offered a money back guarantee to one person if not all if you so there wouldn't be anything to loose if he just happens to be wrong. There have only been two people in my dealings with diesel performance that have offered me a money back guarantee and I took both of them up one there offer. One paid off as it did what they promised. The other I felt didn't meet what was represented to me and I got my money back in full. Either way I was satisfied with both outcomes. I don't even have a PPE item on my vehicle so I certainly am not endorsing their products but any offer that will give a person the needed feeling if their money is wisely invested has zero to loose except about a hours time and a little shipping.


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[Chevy1925]

Compared to the cost of a cooler, if the end result is the same, the pan is the cheaper and easier route.

I know a for sure fix is a higher flow oil pump, but I'm willing to try this as it's an exponentially easier thing to do than swapping the pump.

Also if one looks at the air intake testing that was done a few years ago (albeit flow dynamics between oil and air are different) the end result is the same. A lower negative pressure on the inlet results in higher efficiency and better output flow.

By no means would I consider the pan a replacement for a cooler. It will certainly prolong oil temp but when you load a truck down and out side temp is high, your still going to hit those same temps. Just gunna take a little longer. Same deal as a deeper Allison trans pan.

 

[LBZ]

I don't have to deal with high temps up here for extended periods of time but I know what you are saying. On the flipside though, once the high load that puts the heat into it passes it cools back down to a lower temp than it would normally. So the end result is still going to be an improvement. That coupled with the better suction might be all I need. The test will tell the tale........

 

[Chevy1925]

I don't have to deal with high temps up here for extended periods of time but I know what you are saying. On the flipside though, once the high load that puts the heat into it passes it cools back down to a lower temp than it would normally. So the end result is still going to be an improvement. That coupled with the better suction might be all I need. The test will tell the tale......

Once that fluid does get hot, it will also take longer to cool back down.

Definitely interested to see what you come up with!

 

[c20elephant]

Compared to the cost of a cooler, if the end result is the same, the pan is the cheaper and easier route.

I know a for sure fix is a higher flow oil pump, but I'm willing to try this as it's an exponentially easier thing to do than swapping the pump.

Also if one looks at the air intake testing that was done a few years ago (albeit flow dynamics between oil and air are different) the end result is the same. A lower negative pressure on the inlet results in higher efficiency and better output flow.

If you do install a PPE oil pan (or anyone else for that matter) could you post results in this thread as opposed to starting another one.?

 

[LBZ]

I can.

 

[Harbin_22]

]Once that fluid does get hot, it will also take longer to cool back down[/B].

Definitely interested to see what you come up with!

Are you sure about that?

 

[moparkxracer]

Mine shipped the other day, swapping out the banana pan.

 

[c20elephant]

Mine shipped the other day, swapping out the banana pan.

How much for the :nana: pan...??

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[Chevy1925]

Are you sure about that?

well the only additonal cooling gained was from an aluminum pan in an area where you dont get a whole bunch of air flow, granted there is some cooling from it. when you add additional volume of fluid and dont increase the cooling part of the system, it will take longer for the fluid to get hot. Once it does, it will then take longer for the fluid to cool back down. im not talking a huge increase in time but there will be an increase from what it was originally. our stock oil coolers can only do so much.

Ive been wrong before though Kyle so you can tell me to STFU and see what dale finds :roflmao: :angel:

 

[hondarider552]

James, get a pan, let's swap it out, I got a gooseneck and throw my truck on it. Nice 13k load for the limo, head up to flag, I'll pay your fuel, let's compare Temps and said claims.

You down?

I don't believe the pan does jack cap besides hold half a quart to 2 qts, but I am wrong 50% of the time :roflmao:

You game?

 

[lts1ow]

Deep pans also help control windage much better but IDK if the duramax has that sort of issue.

 

[moparkxracer]

Haven't made it that far yet, maybe 200.

How much for the :nana: pan...??

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[Chevy1925]

James, get a pan, let's swap it out, I got a gooseneck and throw my truck on it. Nice 13k load for the limo, head up to flag, I'll pay your fuel, let's compare Temps and said claims.

You down?

I don't believe the pan does jack cap besides hold half a quart to 2 qts, but I am wrong 50% of the time :roflmao:

You game?

im game..... i just dont have the time. i still have injectors sitting on my shelf lol. Dale can report back

 

[SSchmi5519]

I think the dang thing is worth it just so that anyone that looks under my truck will know i've got some sick engine mods. :spit: :hug:

The raw looks sweet.

 

[DAVe3283]

James, get a pan, let's swap it out, I got a gooseneck and throw my truck on it. Nice 13k load for the limo, head up to flag, I'll pay your fuel, let's compare Temps and said claims.

You down?

I don't believe the pan does jack cap besides hold half a quart to 2 qts, but I am wrong 50% of the time :roflmao:

You game?

I feel the same way. Just curious if the extra oil helps an average user with temps as much as PPE claims. Would love to see some hard data.

Deep pans also help control windage much better but IDK if the duramax has that sort of issue.

The Duramax upper oil pan has a windage tray that looks to do a good job, at least to my semi-untrained eye. I don't think a deeper pan will help the Duramax with windage, especially if you just add more oil, instead of letting the deeper pan move the oil farther down away from the crank.

I think the dang thing is worth it just so that anyone that looks under my truck will know i've got some sick engine mods. :spit: :hug:

The raw looks sweet.

Right?

 

[Dozerboy]

This thread makes me miss the old arguments between Mike and Steve about the Ally. Now we just have resorted to oil pans.


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[Chevy1925]

i honestly wouldnt mind the extra oil (would put me at a total of 14.5 quarts). the "more oil pressure at idle" would be awesome as well. those would be the two main reason i buy it. might have to do that after the first of the year.

 

[Dan@PPE]

By no means would I consider the pan a replacement for a cooler. It will certainly prolong oil temp but when you load a truck down and out side temp is high, your still going to hit those same temps. Just gunna take a little longer. Same deal as a deeper Allison trans pan.

Once that fluid does get hot, it will also take longer to cool back down.

Definitely interested to see what you come up with!

Are you sure about that?

I also disagree with the above statements about the oil taking longer to cool down... if so, only sightly longer.

One thing I don't think is being considered is, this pan holds a little over 1 more qt over stock and a little over 2 qts more than the "yellow pan".

When the engine is off, most if not all the oil is in the pans. When the engine is running, a considerable amount of the oil is no longer in the pan, and being pumped through the engine. With our pan and the extra capacity, there will be more oil left in the pan, less work load per qt of oil. Thus giving more dwell time in the pan, allowing the aluminum to pull heat out of the oil.

 

[Chevy1925]

I also disagree with the above statements about the oil taking longer to cool down... if so, only sightly longer.

One thing I don't think is being considered is, this pan holds a little over 1 more qt over stock and a little over 2 qts more than the "yellow pan".

When the engine is off, most if not all the oil is in the pans. When the engine is running, a considerable amount of the oil is no longer in the pan, and being pumped through the engine. With our pan and the extra capacity, there will be more oil left in the pan, less work load per qt of oil. Thus giving more dwell time in the pan, allowing the aluminum to pull heat out of the oil.

im more curious if the summer heat while towing will still well over come the added cooling from the pan. id definitely like to see first hand how it does. just have to buy one and get it on