New Product!!! GM Duramax Deep oil pan

[moparkxracer]

I think that is seen by making it flat (getting rid of the oem hump) on the bottom, it is a little deeper then the stock pan as well. Mine showed up today, had to have wife send pics. Can't wait to get home have a few "small" goodies waiting.

 

[THEFERMANATOR]

I have no dog in this fight as I couldn't run one if I wanted to without cutting, welding, and butchering it up to fit. But I will say I can't believe the difference in oil pressure I saw by simply changing out a bad fan clutch. Towing my travel trailer at 70 with a stock hayden clutch I would see 215-220 on level ground, and after an hour or 2 at 70, oil pressure would drop down 35-40 running at 1850-1900. Swapped in the kennedy clutch and now it won't break 210 if I try, and oil pressure is back up to 45 under the same conditions. So it doesn't take much extra cooling of the engine/oil to give a noticeable bump in oil pressure. That being said, unless this pan provides a marked increase in heat rejection over a stock steel pan, I would think it would be just like adding a deep pan to the allison(just simply prolongs the heating, and thus prolongs the cooling as well).

 

[c20elephant]

For the guys using an oil cooler, if you install a Banana pan or install one of PPE's and you were concerned about the "dirty little secret" 1 cup of oil the Banana Pan markets their product under that the OEM pan leaves un-drained, what about when installing an oil cooler without some means to drain it, that leaves quite a bit of oil to "contaminate" the new oil at this point you just voided the original intent of the pan with a side benefit of increased oil pressure.

So what do we want, cleaner oil by draining the additional cup or so with a different pan, not gonna happen if you don't drain the oil cooler. More oil, sounds like a good idea or not, increased oil pressure and cooler oil and in return some sort of imaginary increased longevity factor...

 

[Chevy1925]

For the guys using an oil cooler, if you install a Banana pan or install one of PPE's and you were concerned about the "dirty little secret" 1 cup of oil the Banana Pan markets their product under that the OEM pan leaves un-drained, what about when installing an oil cooler without some means to drain it, that leaves quite a bit of oil to "contaminate" the new oil at this point you just voided the original intent of the pan with a side benefit of increased oil pressure.

So what do we want, cleaner oil by draining the additional cup or so with a different pan, not gonna happen if you don't drain the oil cooler. More oil, sounds like a good idea or not, increased oil pressure and cooler oil and in return some sort of imaginary increased longevity factor...

my lines run at a down hill slope from the oil filter adapter, old cooler had a drain, new one i pop a line off. about 1-1.25 quarts come out. anything left is no more than whats left in the block oil galleys

 

[OregonDMAX]

my lines run at a down hill slope from the oil filter adapter, old cooler had a drain, new one i pop a line off. about 1-1.25 quarts come out. anything left is no more than whats left in the block oil galleys

What about refilling. I had my oil pressure light come on three times trying to get the air out of my system I couldn't imagine draining the cooler for just an oil change.

 

[JRein]

my lines run at a down hill slope from the oil filter adapter, old cooler had a drain, new one i pop a line off. about 1-1.25 quarts come out. anything left is no more than whats left in the block oil galleys

I haven't had one of these engines completely torn down yet but in all the Detroits I've been in have a considerable amount left in the nooks and crannies of the blocks. As long as the majority of it comes out of the pan and you're using quality oil, I think you're wading m wasting your time chasing every last drop of dirty oil. Just my $0.02

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[Chevy1925]

What about refilling. I had my oil pressure light come on three times trying to get the air out of my system I couldn't imagine draining the cooler for just an oil change.

Never an issue I've seen. Needle jumps maybe a fraction a second slower than it did without the cooler.

 

[Chevy1925]

I haven't had one of these engines completely torn down yet but in all the Detroits I've been in have a considerable amount left in the nooks and crannies of the blocks. As long as the majority of it comes out of the pan and you're using quality oil, I think you're wading m wasting your time chasing every last drop of dirty oil. Just my $0.02

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Oh for sure, at no point will you get ALL the oil out. A damn good amount runs back to the pan though. The most oil you will get when you tear it down comes from the oil pump and the galleys you open up, then the heads st the bottoms of the valve cover sealing area, then from the main and rod caps, then oil squirters. I don't have much oil in the bed of my truck from a fresh tear down when I take it to the machine shop 2 hours away. Pulling 1-1.25 quarts out of a oil cooler is quite a bit though, well more than what's left in the block and heads after sitting.

 

[TheBac]

Dont forget about the little sump at the front of the upper pan, too. Gotta be a few oz there....

 

[x MadMAX DIESEL]

I haven't had one of these engines completely torn down yet but in all the Detroits I've been in have a considerable amount left in the nooks and crannies of the blocks. As long as the majority of it comes out of the pan and you're using quality oil, I think you're wading m wasting your time chasing every last drop of dirty oil. Just my $0.02

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Yeah idk why it matters lol

 

[OregonDMAX]

Never an issue I've seen. Needle jumps maybe a fraction a second slower than it did without the cooler.

No I mean when I installed the cooler and filled the whole system I had no oil pressure for 5+ seconds and the light came on i had to shut it down and let the motor drain back and try it again 3 more times before i had oil pressure. And I started with pre-filling the cooler and added 12 quarts to start with. It ended up taking 14qts

 

[LBZ]

...........So it doesn't take much extra cooling of the engine/oil to give a noticeable bump in oil pressure. That being said, unless this pan provides a marked increase in heat rejection over a stock steel pan, I would think it would be just like adding a deep pan to the allison(just simply prolongs the heating, and thus prolongs the cooling as well).

It should transfer heat better than stock as it has more surface area and is made out of aluminum.

 

[THEFERMANATOR]

It should transfer heat better than stock as it has more surface area and is made out of aluminum.

I understand this. My only concern would be does it transfer enough heat to make a difference from just surface contact. If it had tubes going through it like I've seen on some trans pans I could see it making a bigger difference. Just curious if the material change would make enough difference or not. Then again, I can't run one anyways without butchering it to fit.

 

[Vmyrhaug]

the allu pan will give better cooling. cooler oil will give increase in oil pressure. extra oil will not give higher pressure, but it will take longer time too heat the oil.
if there is an restriction in the org suction tube, and with this kit its a better suction tube, it will give higher pressure/oil flow. with less bubbles in the oil.
also more oil capasity, will give less air bubbles in the oil.

nice product :woott:

 

[LBZ]

I understand this. My only concern would be does it transfer enough heat to make a difference from just surface contact. If it had tubes going through it like I've seen on some trans pans I could see it making a bigger difference. Just curious if the material change would make enough difference or not. Then again, I can't run one anyways without butchering it to fit.

Good question.

If my MF replacement credit card ever shows up I'll have an answer.

 

[WVRigrat05]

How hard is the oil pan to change?? If it's not a 3 day job I'll buy one just because I hate the stock pan so much.

 

[LBZ]

Pretty simple. Other than all the cleanup and dripping oil from the upper pan not a terrible job from what I recall.

 

[WVRigrat05]

I make a mess anyhow, I prep shit but my ADD still allows me to make a mess somehow.

I just lay down kitty litter and lots of oil soaks.

 

[hondarider552]

Or a neighbors driveway

 

[OregonDMAX]

Fun fact, shaving cream removes even the darkest oil stains.
it also bleaches the concrete for months so don't draw a penis and balls on your neighbors driveway with shaving cream :roflmao: