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This is the offset I'm speaking of. I simply call it a dog leg. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
Kryptonite Centerlink vs. PPE
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This is the offset I'm speaking of. I simply call it a dog leg. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
on a stock centerlink sure, on the kryptonite you wont get. Like i was sayin, your leverage point has been cut 1/2 to 3/4 of what a stock link gives which means you need that much more to twist the link. i do not like the fact dmaxstore has to use the cognito brakets as i said cause i dont feel they are up to par with the strenght of all the other peices in the kit. The braces have a much better chance of holding that setup from twisting though than on a stock setup so i can see where they can hold the power of max'd out, my kit uses a 1/2" billet arm that allows NO twisting.
btw, pull your torsion bar out and measure your toe at full droop, at ride height and at full bump. its horrible the change we have and does not help our steering setup. the lower the suspension drops from ride height, the more your tires toe in, this is what im getting at and can magnify any little bit worn out parts you may have to give you really bad toe in or scrubbing that causes the bad wander affect.
understandable but your not the only one who has put that kind of effort into a steering system looking for something to work. its been 6 years of testing, running different setups, trying new ideas, looking at how our steering is suffering, once one thing is made to work what the next weak link is, and dumping too much money into my steering to come up with a setup that i found to work, keep me daily driveable with no adverse affects and will hold up to me and my abuse. Im going to have to differ with this statement because i as well have seen the opposite in both my truck and others as well. im looking at this as a whole for the guy who wants to play at the track on the weekends, haul a trailer on monday through thursday, hit the dirt on friday, and clean up again for saturday night drags. Running the kryptonite design has already been proven as well with less cons to the setup. under a straight drag truck, puller a stragiht centerlink like the SD is a great affordable setup that will do all you ask it of. if you want something more, the option is out there.
oh i got ya.
In my personal opinon and experience, no to the first question and yes to the second. Others may differ with that answer
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Not recommended. I did a long time ago, and it wasn't all that fun. You can break CVs much easier too I might add. It can make them wear weird if your alignment isn't correct or even set up as I stated and if you do lots of turning all the time it can too (but my stocker could make my tires wear weird as well as will worn out components).
I have no complaints out of my true straight centerlink...best thing I've done for the front end of my truck, besides lowering it.
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Anybody have any experience with these? They use the factory outter tie rod end but heim joint inner http://www.pure-performance.biz/
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Anybody have any experience with these? They use the factory outter tie rod end but heim joint inner
The exposed threads where the stock outer tie rod screws on are still unsupported on that set up (close up view shows it). This is our original premier week spot on the steering of these trucks. The CL appears to be straight. I'm wondering if the tie rods hook up to the back side of it (off setting it and creating a pivot point) or in the center of it like a true straight CL set up. The Heim joints will wear like Heims I'm sure. This also can create a situation where you may have a hard time finding replacement parts in a jam. May need to have spares on hand. Going with the solid strait CL as Henry is advertising is still the best bang for the buck when needing the absolute toughest IFS setup with full steering control and with absolute reliability with no toe in (or out) over the entire up and down suspension motion and full lock to lock steering movement. This has been proven for almost 8 years now with this set up. Tried and true on hundreds of the most powerful Dmaxes out there. No one else can take complete or truthful claim of these facts period.
The thing with most of ones like KRYPTONITE they do not use stock tie-rods and little do you know how bad it suck to have one let go when 500miles away from home. Try and find a KRYPTONITE one at 4PM is some shit hole town. I will keep my sleeves and SCL that use stock GM Tie-Rods. Yes I know the "KRYPTONITE" have a "Lifetime warranty" but that does not help if the truck is down for days as they ship you new ones.
Well if you could break one of those you have a lot more to worry about then just a broken tie-rod. There are a ton of things that will break before you break one of those.
cant argue with that! another reason i like my exaxt kit, all parts can be bought over the counter at any parts store. BUT like ken said, how often do you hear of people that have busted a tierod end on a trip across country that were not doing something dumb in the truck?
there is always gunna be pros and cons to our steering, we all could go back and forth for days and days and never get anywhere. I think we all have put our facts in with more details than most ever think of which is great. jsut another reason i love this site
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Chevy 1925 how have you been performing boosted launches @ track? I dont plan on doing this much but plan on giving her a few tries @ it. With a Billet or solid centerlink sleeves and my procomp lift with the supports will this be a problem? I dont have much of a cv angle it is pretty flat. I could do 80mph in 4wheel drive and the truck drove nice and straight but one time I tried to launch it in 4wd and it was like riding a bull! I am hoping the Straight centerlink and new pitman arm, idler arm, idler arm pivot and weld in bracket will allow this to be launched in 4wd.
I built my own steering kit with the stock center link. Originally had a straight center link with a 1.5" offset where the inners connect. Still had tire scrub so I ended up welding shackles on the stock center link and using the same heim tie rods.
Designed and built my own center link support that removes all twist from the CL at any kind of launch. I would love to post pics of this but as soon as I do my design will be stolen. So simple its ridiculous!
It also supports 2 other weak spots on the front end.
Designed and built my own center link support that removes all twist from the CL at any kind of launch. I would love to post pics of this but as soon as I do my design will be stolen. So simple its ridiculous!
It also supports 2 other weak spots on the front end.
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well there is 4 different setups for pro-comp lifts. first, is your the knuckle lift or does it use a UCA drop bracket?
yes i do them every time i run it. the only time i get "steering wheel walk" is when i over power the track and get one front tire spinning, then it grabs and the other starts spinning. I dont see doing what your talking about being an issue other than if you have an older style UCA drop bracket style lift, it wont work as they use a centerlink drop bar, some with supports and some without.
Ya mine must be the uca drop bracket lift. It has some supports that attach to the centerlink. It seem to help a ton in 4wd not darting all over the place. You think this will be troublesome though a?