You should not get any center link twist with the lift you have. If it has the drop down steering bracket with the 2 heim joint supports it will be very solid.
Kryptonite Centerlink vs. PPE
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You should not get any center link twist with the lift you have. If it has the drop down steering bracket with the 2 heim joint supports it will be very solid.
Well just do me a favor and look at how the upper control arm is mounted. if its not in the stock frame location your on the right track. the braces your talking about are not cognito braces are they?
eh not from what ive seen on some trucks. i dont know what it is about those lifts but even the newer style with the updated centerlink drop and secondary pivot locations, some still have toe issues even with everything new. ive not been able to actually see one in person but ive watched some vids of different trucks on other forums launch in 4wd with high hp and all new steering parts (sleeves and the whole nine yards) and they still toe in a decent amount. i dont like those lifts and there is a reason pro comp came out with there knuckle lift.
Bonestock, makes sure all your steering componets have no slop and you put some sleves atleast on the outer tie rods. there isnt much more you can do to the centerlink than that. If you get bored with a GoPro, put it under your fender facing at the centerlink. should shine alot of light on us on what is happening
Thanks will do. I have the ppe sleeves already and have pulled with this kit quite a few times and no toe in that I can feel in the steering or see on the videos. But then I added more hp and try to launch in 4wd and its like trying to jump on a bull for the first time. I do have some issues going on right now in the front end that may be leading up to this. I am going to replace the centerlink with either the ppe or sd centerlink here in the next week or so. Happy bday to me! Also I will be changing upper ball joints, idler and pitman along with the new weld in brace for the idler pivot.
My lift you had to chop off the factory mounts for the upper control arms and mount their drop brackets to lower the upper control arm for lift. Then they have 2 pretty damn stout connections that appear to be heim joints from drop uca to centerlink itself. This seems to be much better than the cognito braces. Procomp said I would not be able to use cognito braces with this kit due to its design.
My lift you had to chop off the factory mounts for the upper control arms and mount their drop brackets to lower the upper control arm for lift. Then they have 2 pretty damn stout connections that appear to be heim joints from drop uca to centerlink itself. This seems to be much better than the cognito braces. Procomp said I would not be able to use cognito braces with this kit due to its design.
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the point of pro comps heim joints is to stop centerlink rotation but like i said, i have little faith in their design. let us know how the centerlink fixes your issue! if your truck is that violent on take off, i can tell you its a toe issue, dirt will hide it better as the tires never have the traction asphault gives.
I hear ya. Right now I think I have a bent bracket for the idler arm pivot assembly. I know my tires are not sitting correct. I will address all of this and get back in the next couple of weeks.
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The A arm mounts (rubber or what ever you kit comes with) also can cause some flex and the further everything gets away from the frame where it all mounts to, the more pronounced it becomes. This can cause some bucking as the tires lash back and forth from gaining and loosing traction. I built some ball joint (adjustable) limiters to help hold the A arms from flexing forward some years ago. I would not recommend this for every day driving though.
Subscribed. I need a new centerlink, already have all of the support parts (I think), but my centerlink definitely has some play in it. I just need to get my steering tightened up, and want to do whatever is necessary to do so while maintaining the best suspension action.
Any of you guys that are going to be in Phoenix for the race on the 10th if you want to ck out the Kryptonite full race frontend that I have on Whiteout come on over to the pits. I'll be parked next to the Max'd Out trailer.
So if I buy the centerlink and have it installed an get an alignment, will I have issues with my tires wearing odd on a truck I drive everyday? If I rotate the tires regularly will that help? I have cranked front end and want to launch.. But within a year or 2 I'd like to buy a 4" kit when I have the money. Then my angles would be flat and no worries on the front end correct?
Anybody have any experience with these? They use the factory outter tie rod end but heim joint inner
I have this on mine with 6" procomp knuckle lift. Ackerman angle is a little off so itscrubs a little still working on dialing in alignment. It is strong,no bump steer. I have launched it a couple times and it seems to be good. I will be beating on it more in the next few weeks. I installed the pure kit and the lift at the same time The truck had cranked t-bars and crank it up center and sleeves prior to this install.
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I have launched the truck in 4wd and it is pretty much straight as an arrow now with no trouble. lowered the 6" lift to 4" to get cv angles straight.
I have launched the truck in 4wd and it is pretty much straight as an arrow now with no trouble. lowered the 6" lift to 4" to get cv angles straight.
its been explained many times over, most of which by me. a quick search will give you your answer.
what are you talking about? i dont like straight centerlinks that utilize the factory tie rods directly off the end of a straight centerlink for the very reason they mess up the ackerman angle and cause tire scrub. my kit does not work that way, nor does the kryptonite, nor SD's new centerlink. the brace kit DOES NOT WORK FOR ME. ive stated this over and over and others who have tried to follow me in a lifted truck with minimal back spaced wheels have found the same. a lowered truck should handle much better than my lifted truck. leverages and angles play much bigger roles here. the braces work for most but start pushing the truck in power/lifted/off roading and its not long they start to show they cant handle it. Ive never said "cognito braces dont work for everyone out there in the GM world"
you havnt broadend anything. all you have done is say you disagree with me on certain points and yet none of them disagree with my statements or facts for previous post till now. glad you got a truck to corner like a sports car but thats not what we are talkin about
once again, i never disagreed with this. please point out where i say in any thread because apparently all this BS on here stemed from it.
And no, flex should NOT be present in the centerlink. the tooth pick tie rods will bend/flex before the centerlink ever would. if GM were so smart to make these things bend for "sliding into a crub from ice", why in the hell do we need cognito braces or any kind of brace to begin with?
well boss, you jump on here and start makin claims of disagreement and post no facts to back it and some kinda irrelevent info on a lowered gas truck playing with audi's. give me some facts and data that poves running something other than what i am currently is better. there is one of two reasons 99% of the people out there are not running what i have. 1 is, its not sold in the states anymore due to cognito sending out a letter to Mac, and 2 is when you could buy it, no one wanted to spend the money. At this point, SD and Kryptonite are the next best option for one of the strongest steering setups out that still allows you to DD it without tire scrub or ill-affects on driving. You wanna go with just cognito braces? cool, i never said you couldnt. this is based on facts and basic steering knowlege, not what i "believe". ive never had an issue with cognito and you pullin the card of "well you must have something against them" is BS. Unfortunatly, in the realm most of us are in, a stock centerlink with cognito braces and tie rods doesnt work because cognito braces still allow flex and will bend. Cognito makes some of the best lift kits when you get down to it but they are high priced. Ill push one of their kits all day but it dont fit everyone. Same reason i wont push anyone into a fabtech lift even though ive had one on my truck for the last 6 years and 90k, fabtechs setup out the door sucks for those who want the best ride, used 4wd hard off road, and want to keep bumpsteer to a min.
sorry you dont like my post buddy but im bring fact, your bringing what you "feel" or "believe". And i never said my way was right, once again, your puttin words in my mouth. I stated factually, what was the best setup.