Help: Brokeded the transmission

jckleewein

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The C1's have fiction pads on both sides. :mad:

This is a perfect example of why you should due stuff yourself or give it to Mike, a true transmission specialist.

Due I have to compress the C1 Clutch Housing to remove the C1 clutch housing snap ring?
 
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WolfLMM

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The C1's have fiction pads on both sides. :mad:

This is a perfect example of why you should due stuff yourself or give it to Mike, a true transmission specialist.

Due I have to compress the C1 Clutch Housing to remove the C1 clutch housing snap ring?

Yes you do. The alto C1's should be one sided.
 

TrentNell

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Yeah! I am trying to decide the best way to approach this with these guys.

throw the clutches on the counter @ there shop and ask what brand they are ? let there answer determine your path . if they say stock tear into them for putting them in there , if they say alto tear into them for being idiots :D seems quite simple to me ......
 

jckleewein

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throw the clutches on the counter @ there shop and ask what brand they are ? let there answer determine your path . if they say stock tear into them for putting them in there , if they say alto tear into them for being idiots :D seems quite simple to me ......

For what I paid that is what's probally going to happen.
 

WolfLMM

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The best way to deal with folks is to be nice about it, but state that there has been a mistake with the clutches.:)
 

TrentNell

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How can I tell if the transgo JR was installed?
the transgo jr will have balls and springs in the trim valves . if there arent balls and springs in the end of the valves then you didnt get it installed .

on edit :you should have 2 holes drilled out on the valve body spacer plate also would need instuctions to verify wich holes
 
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DMAXchris

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I hate to hear about folks not getting what the shop said they installed. Happened to my uncles 'vette. Told him they did a full motor build, but it was still slow. He took it apart and found the entire factory bottom end and valvetrain. All they did was change the cam and carb.
Hopefully they make everything right for ya.
 
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jckleewein

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the transgo jr will have balls and springs in the trim valves . if there arent balls and springs in the end of the valves then you didnt get it installed .

on edit :you should have 2 holes drilled out on the valve body spacer plate also would need instuctions to verify wich holes

I will check the trim valves. I sure hope they are in there.

I hate to hear about folks not getting what the shop said they installed. Happened to my uncles 'vette. Told him they did a full motor build, but it was still slow. He took it apart and found the entire factory bottom end and valvetrain. All they did was change the cam and carb.
Hopefully they make everything right for ya.

Yeah, it is very frustrating. It makes me wonder how many other people they have done this to.
 

jckleewein

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the transgo jr will have balls and springs in the trim valves . if there arent balls and springs in the end of the valves then you didnt get it installed .

on edit :you should have 2 holes drilled out on the valve body spacer plate also would need instuctions to verify wich holes

Which trim valve? I see tiny springs on the end of Trim A and Trim B Valve, but no balls. I was very careful at disassembling this thing. I didn't notice anything come rolling out. Also a large spring came out of trim solenoid A or B. I am not for sure which one. Any ideas?
 

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Which trim valve? I see tiny springs on the end of Trim A and Trim B Valve, but no balls. I was very careful at disassembling this thing. I didn't notice anything come rolling out. Also a large spring came out of trim solenoid A or B. I am not for sure which one. Any ideas?

they are the 2 on the far right looking at the side of the valve body all of the soliniods are on , i think it is a and b .... the balls are behind the springs inside the trim valves the springs hold the balls in.
 
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jckleewein

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they are the 2 on the far right looking at the side of the valve body all of the soliniods are on , i think it is a and b .... the balls are behind the springs inside the trim valves the springs hold the balls in.

Yeah, they are not there.:mad: The plate has been drilled in the correct locations. There are tiny little springs installed on the end of solenoid A and B, but no balls. What about this large spring that I found? It looks like it goes around the trim gain valve. The ATSG manual doesn't show it anywhere.
 
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TrentNell

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check in side the trim valves for the balls

x2 i cant imagine the trans would have ever worked to well without the balls in there maybe you had low pressure from the balls missing ? but like i said i cant imagine they were missing all along , maybe mike or some body would know what the symptoms would be if they had been missing .
 

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Yeah, they are not there.:mad: The plate has been drilled in the correct locations. There are tiny little springs installed on the end of solenoid A and B, but no balls. What about this large spring that I found? It looks like it goes around the trim gain valve. The ATSG manual doesn't show it anywhere.

should be 2 of them 1 for each gain valve if they are the springs i think they are , they go under the plate that holds the 2 soliniods in, on the oposite side of the trim valves .