batmo turbos, fact or hype?

MarkBroviak

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othrgrl said:
We have swapped a stock motor LBZ from a cast 475 that he ran for over a year to a Bat 475 and he loved the improved spool-up and harder pull.

I have installed a Bat 475 on a stock LBZ with heavy 18" rims and 33x12.5 tires one week; then installed a billet 475 on LWatson's identically modified LBZ except stock rims with 265 tires and can tell you that while the truck with bigger/heavier tires should have felt slower it spooled a slight bit better and pulled a little harder in the top end.

I have personally run cast S475s and have tuned trucks with cast, billet, Bat, and Double Bat 475s. One of my employees has a double bat 475 on his stock motor LLY.

We have installed and tuned plenty of S366s - cast, billet, Bat, and Double Bat.

Like Mark I am a firm believer in the results of the Bat and Double Bat wheels. As a BullsEye dealer we can obviously still get the older style billet wheels if we want them, and could do like other shops and make more money by buying box unit BW turbos from BW distributors and then swap in BullsEye (or "our own design") billet wheels.

My personal daily driver will be getting a Double Bat S366 - the LMM that Jonathan mentioned sold me on having that turbo on my daily driver. Awesome spool up and is flat out impressive in the top end for a "little" 300 series charger; and staying in the 300 gives me some boundaries for the truck so that I'm not tempted to keep pushing it to the next level (that's what the race truck is for).

All of this is comparing BW based to BW based. As has been mentioned Precision turbos are in a whole different financial class and I haven't had the opportunity to run one.
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Well put Dustin.:thumb:
 
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MarkBroviak said:
Well put Dustin.:thumb:
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Isn't it funny how after BullsEye decides to only sell the BatMo stuff as complete chargers all the shops that used to buy cheap turbos at the BW distributor and swap on BullsEye wheels and covers then sell them for at a ridiculous mark-up no longer like BullsEye stuff? The best is that you and I can get the normal billet wheels if we want them, or can get the BatMo stuff - and make about the same amount on the sale either way so we recommend what we see the best results out of. But shops that have ways to make more money on other turbos talk so much crap about the BatMo stuff :rolleyes:
 
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I think the double batmo has the funky shape on the half blades as well.
 
MarkBroviak

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othrgrl said:
Isn't it funny how after BullsEye decides to only sell the BatMo stuff as complete chargers all the shops that used to buy cheap turbos at the BW distributor and swap on BullsEye wheels and covers then sell them for at a ridiculous mark-up no longer like BullsEye stuff? The best is that you and I can get the normal billet wheels if we want them, or can get the BatMo stuff - and make about the same amount on the sale either way so we recommend what we see the best results out of. But shops that have ways to make more money on other turbos talk so much crap about the BatMo stuff :rolleyes:
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Yeap, the truth hurts. There is a very good reason that I keep on average about $40K worth of BullseyePower turbos on the shelf to build for my customers becuase they work, period. Double Bat means that all the blades on the compressor are "Batmotized".
 
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Rhall said:
some people say i just got lucky cause i didnt spend time on the dyno and just threw my junk together in a back yard. You can do that when you pull in a class that has no technology like the 2.6 class.:spit:
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i value your info, but we all know it isnt some people, its one. i had nothing to do about any of what was said above me, so please leave that out of whats so far an awesome thread. thanks

othrgrl said:
We have swapped a stock motor LBZ from a cast 475 that he ran for over a year to a Bat 475 and he loved the improved spool-up and harder pull.

I have installed a Bat 475 on a stock LBZ with heavy 18" rims and 33x12.5 tires one week; then installed a billet 475 on LWatson's identically modified LBZ except stock rims with 265 tires and can tell you that while the truck with bigger/heavier tires should have felt slower it spooled a slight bit better and pulled a little harder in the top end.

I have personally run cast S475s and have tuned trucks with cast, billet, Bat, and Double Bat 475s. One of my employees has a double bat 475 on his stock motor LLY.

We have installed and tuned plenty of S366s - cast, billet, Bat, and Double Bat.

Like Mark I am a firm believer in the results of the Bat and Double Bat wheels. As a BullsEye dealer we can obviously still get the older style billet wheels if we want them, and could do like other shops and make more money by buying box unit BW turbos from BW distributors and then swap in BullsEye (or "our own design") billet wheels.

My personal daily driver will be getting a Double Bat S366 - the LMM that Jonathan mentioned sold me on having that turbo on my daily driver. Awesome spool up and is flat out impressive in the top end for a "little" 300 series charger; and staying in the 300 gives me some boundaries for the truck so that I'm not tempted to keep pushing it to the next level (that's what the race truck is for).

All of this is comparing BW based to BW based. As has been mentioned Precision turbos are in a whole different financial class and I haven't had the opportunity to run one.
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awesome post was awesome. thank you very much sir!!:thumb:

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yep
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learned something new today. thought a double bat was twin turbo slang. thanks for the pic!!:thumb:








thanks everyone for the comments
 
Schwinn68

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I believe there is a thread on compd right now about these batmo chargers. More info on the bigger sizes like you're looking for
 
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Looks sessimous if nothing else!
 
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othrgrl said:
Isn't it funny how after BullsEye decides to only sell the BatMo stuff as complete chargers all the shops that used to buy cheap turbos at the BW distributor and swap on BullsEye wheels and covers then sell them for at a ridiculous mark-up no longer like BullsEye stuff? The best is that you and I can get the normal billet wheels if we want them, or can get the BatMo stuff - and make about the same amount on the sale either way so we recommend what we see the best results out of. But shops that have ways to make more money on other turbos talk so much crap about the BatMo stuff :rolleyes:
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I have to say never have met Mark but have bought some stuff off him and he is tuning the truck in a couple weeks , but he could have made money on building me another charger that I was asking about but instead told me he could redo a few things on mine and make better power . :thumb:made me a customer for life . So if you carry the same business ethics as Mark I am sure you will keep some loyal customers .
 
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