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ripmf666

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It's one thing to come to a Duramax forum and ask for help. But to shit in the same place to want to hang will not fly here. Something went wrong and you had alot of help to fix it but these truck need some fancy tools not alot but just a simple scanner that can read rail pressure, injection rates and timing and nice to be able to turn off each injector to run tests if not your shitting away money. And at one point it's your fault and not just the trucks or Gm. I for one am tired of the Gm bashing yes I drive them but I also work for Gm and no not at the dealer or what you call stealer level. Hell atleast when you scrapped the truck I thought the old girl was going on to a better life.
 

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It's one thing to come to a Duramax forum and ask for help. But to shit in the same place to want to hang will not fly here. Something went wrong and you had alot of help to fix it but these truck need some fancy tools not alot but just a simple scanner that can read rail pressure, injection rates and timing and nice to be able to turn off each injector to run tests if not your shitting away money. And at one point it's your fault and not just the trucks or Gm. I for one am tired of the Gm bashing yes I drive them but I also work for Gm and no not at the dealer or what you call stealer level. Hell atleast when you scrapped the truck I thought the old girl was going on to a better life.

Did you get my pm?
 

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Did you get my pm?

You mean this one it tells alot about were all your post have came from tonight. Thank you and have a great trip.

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hey you got a serious problem with me, let me hear about it. I got half a bottle left of jaeger right now, I am doing just fine, but i would love to hear about how i have pissed you off
oh oop3 i am sorry i ment jager. screw it though you know what i meant
 

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I'll take the miserable money pit truck off your hands for $2500 dollars and arrange shipping. Your life will be less complicated.
 

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You mean this one it tells alot about were all your post have came from tonight. Thank you and have a great trip.

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hey you got a serious problem with me, let me hear about it. I got half a bottle left of jaeger right now, I am doing just fine, but i would love to hear about how i have pissed you off
oh oop3 i am sorry i ment jager. screw it though you know what i meant

Yup, that is the one. Sorry for bad mouthing Gm, i didn't mean to upset anybody. I would have loved to have known about them before all this happened. And from another post, I do understand GM doesn't manufacture the injectors or pump... What I don't like is how much effort you have to go into removing stuff off the the motor to replace them along with the injector pump. I like the inline motors because its valve cover off, injector lines off, connector tubes out, hold down bolts out, wires out, and pry them out. Takes like 30 minutes tops. Granted, the injectors on a 03-07 5.9 cummins are very similar to the duramax. I have a common rail cummins, but I have never had a problem so far but one bad tank of fuel and I could!!! I admit!!!. I also have an 02 with the vp44, and the only problem with them is the weak transfer pumps killing the vp44, plus if you buy a fass and new injector pump you spend 1500 tops and your back on the road. Thats all im saying. I could take a 6b or isb apart and put it back together in a day. Only one head and gasket to worry about, turbo is right there to check if you need to. I don't know, inline seems to be the way to go at least for ease of service and repair in my opinion.
 
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AND YOUR STILL BLAMING GM!!!! your whole problem is the fact you cant admit YOU are the one that screwed up this truck. you THOUGHT it was injectors, you THOUGHT it was a CP3, you THOUGHT throwin parts at it with out a proper diag would fix it. Your thinkin got you in a world of hurt. then, when it was smoking you beat the shit out of the truck, smoke cleared up for a few days and you melted a piston. Have you ever seen a mechanic take a truck that smoked like that and jsut rev the shit out of it or beat on it to fix it? NO!!!

You are the fault of the truck, get over yourself. Nothing was properly done and you paid the end result of that.
 

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I like the inline motors because its valve cover off, injector lines off, connector tubes out, hold down bolts out, wires out, and pry them out. Takes like 30 minutes tops. Granted, the injectors on a 03-07 5.9 cummins are very similar to the duramax. I have a common rail cummins, but I have never had a problem so far but one bad tank of fuel and I could!!! I admit!!!. I also have an 02 with the vp44, and the only problem with them is the weak transfer pumps killing the vp44, plus if you buy a fass and new injector pump you spend 1500 tops and your back on the road. Thats all im saying. I could take a 6b or isb apart and put it back together in a day. Only one head and gasket to worry about, turbo is right there to check if you need to. I don't know, inline seems to be the way to go at least for ease of service and repair in my opinion.
How many CR Cummins injectors have you changed? I'll tell you you forgot one very important step, and if you can do it all in 30 minutes start to finish, you are using air tools and not torquing things back down properly. Maybe you should just stick to Cummins motors.
 

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How many CR Cummins injectors have you changed? I'll tell you you forgot one very important step, and if you can do it all in 30 minutes start to finish, you are using air tools and not torquing things back down properly. Maybe you should just stick to Cummins motors.
now is that any way to treat someone on your birthday?:coolspot:
 

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How many CR Cummins injectors have you changed? I'll tell you you forgot one very important step, and if you can do it all in 30 minutes start to finish, you are using air tools and not torquing things back down properly. Maybe you should just stick to Cummins motors.

Why take time and adjust things? lol
Seriously, I say lock this down, it's just getting more stupid by the second and i myself feel a little more retarded after reading it.
 
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ripmf666

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Why take time and adjust things? lol
Seriously, I say lock this down, it's just getting more stupid by the second and i myself feel a little more retarded after reading it.

Feels like late night Tv with just repeats that's keep spilling over. Or a record skipping along.
 

brokentothemaxdiesel

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How many CR Cummins injectors have you changed? I'll tell you you forgot one very important step, and if you can do it all in 30 minutes start to finish, you are using air tools and not torquing things back down properly. Maybe you should just stick to Cummins motors.

Uh yeah that was a brief summary. Ok so I forgot to say you have to remove the exhaust rocker levers, boost boot, intake horn, get the apps out of the way on pre 05 motors to get to number one pipe. My little snap on impact makes everything easier. How about a complete run down of all the steps? It isn't hard at all, I exaggerated the 30 minutes to prove a point that it can be done in much less than time than this duramax motor, but I can do it in less than an hour all day long, just get stuff good n' tight I never have a problem. valve lash is the most time consuming part of it because I take my time on that, but everything else, good and tight with blue loctite I never have problems. I have only changed 3 sets out on a common rail, so I am not an expert but I do know from experience it is easier. vp44 isb motors are easy though!!
 

brokentothemaxdiesel

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AND YOUR STILL BLAMING GM!!!! your whole problem is the fact you cant admit YOU are the one that screwed up this truck. you THOUGHT it was injectors, you THOUGHT it was a CP3, you THOUGHT throwin parts at it with out a proper diag would fix it. Your thinkin got you in a world of hurt. then, when it was smoking you beat the shit out of the truck, smoke cleared up for a few days and you melted a piston. Have you ever seen a mechanic take a truck that smoked like that and jsut rev the shit out of it or beat on it to fix it? NO!!!

You are the fault of the truck, get over yourself. Nothing was properly done and you paid the end result of that.

Melted piston and me beating up the truck are unrelated in my opinion. We couldn't find anything else wrong with the motor when it was white smoking, rail pressure was fine, that kid from the votech confirmed it with the efi computer module I had bought. So we figured with no other apparent issues and good compression, no coolant loss, what the heck could be the loss and whaddya know, the smoke cleared up. Then couple days later, it started knocking. I think the injector got into some residual water or something broke inside it.
 
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Melted piston and me beating up the truck are unrelated in my opinion. We couldn't find anything else wrong with the motor when it was white smoking, rail pressure was fine, that kid from the votech confirmed it with the efi computer module I had bought. So we figured with no other apparent issues and good compression, no coolant loss, what the heck could be the loss and whaddya know, the smoke cleared up. Then couple days later, it started knocking. I think the injector got into some residual water or something broke inside it.

Are you serious!!!!! How old did you say you were, you must be the teenager in the family, not the head of household :nutswinger:

where can I get me one of these efi computer module's at :thumb:
 

brokentothemaxdiesel

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Did your kid from Votech check balance rates?

I am sure he did, he was playing with it for a while. This was before I figured out that it actually wasn't using coolant and before I did a compression test, I didn't have the right isuzu adapater for my snap on gauge at that time. He said probably what happened to cause all the white smoke was the water in the fuel damaged the cylinders and the white smoke was blow by and unburnt fuel coming through the pcv to the turbocharger. He said it has happened a couple times to the duramax engines he has seen. I don't know, I don't work on them at all, I never have. My damn wife was griping up a storm jumping all over me saying it was my fault because I am idiot this n that, so I said how about you pay to have it fixed, because she was the one who was driving the truck primarily, I drive my ford or my new duramax. Anyway, junking the truck was primarily to prove a point to her I don't know why I posted up on here about it, I guess I felt some need to finish the thread I started you know.
 
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