To much pigeon toe

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quinton said:
What's the hardest you've launched it? Y'all really think keys would cause that much toe in? The offset part I would believe but as I said earlier my buddy has exact same setup except he has kryptonite kit. Same rims, tires, lift.
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17-18ish IIRC it was couple years ago... My buddies truck which had lift keys was going nuts on the launch I thought for sure he would wreck. He also had a stock center link with no braces, just tierod sleeves and lift keys. We couldn't get his cv even close to flat. My truck would go a little past flat. Not a fair comparison but it sure wasn't helping him either.

I can't really tell from your pic but the cv looks pretty flat. Can you get a shot of it a little farther back?
 
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Burn Down said:
17-18ish IIRC it was couple years ago... My buddies truck which had lift keys was going nuts on the launch I thought for sure he would wreck. He also had a stock center link with no braces, just tierod sleeves and lift keys. We couldn't get his cv even close to flat. My truck would go a little past flat. Not a fair comparison but it sure wasn't helping him either.



I can't really tell from your pic but the cv looks pretty flat. Can you get a shot of it a little farther back?
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They are negative a little
 
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JoshH said:
That's the problem. You want them going up from the centerlink. That way as the front end rises, they go almost flat.
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For some reason I thought they where last time I was under it. Lol. I'm not sure how I will achieve that my t bars are lowered as much as possible and the rubber bump stops are barely touching as is.
 
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Here's what mine look like, I'm struggling with the same issue...
Well, wheel hop fer sure, I don't have any pics of the truck during a launch. No matter how I load the cal-tracs or how much air is or is not in the air bags my front end hops...
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Comparison with quinton's
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quinton said:
For some reason I thought they where last time I was under it. Lol. I'm not sure how I will achieve that my t bars are lowered as much as possible and the rubber bump stops are barely touching as is.
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With the bolt out of the adjuster you should be smashing the crap out of the bump stop... Some guys have even cut the stop down some to get even lower.

Same with your truck Jason.

Try putting stock keys back in guys. It may not cure it 100% but it will help.
 
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quinton said:
For some reason I thought they where last time I was under it. Lol. I'm not sure how I will achieve that my t bars are lowered as much as possible and the rubber bump stops are barely touching as is.
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Burn Down said:
With the bolt out of the adjuster you should be smashing the crap out of the bump stop... Some guys have even cut the stop down some to get even lower.

Same with your truck Jason.

Try putting stock keys back in guys. It may not cure it 100% but it will help.
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Why do people go to leveling keys? Because they can't get any more height out of their stock ones.

Leveling Keys with the bolts backed out are probably the equivalent of stock keys with 8-10 turns. Give or take, depending on brand.







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1pieceatatime said:
Why do people go to leveling keys? Because they can't get any more height out of their stock ones.

Leveling Keys with the bolts backed out are probably the equivalent of stock keys with 8-10 turns. Give or take, depending on brand.







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Well, you can get a little more lift... At the expense of tire wear & ride, unless you change the shocks, but then you still have some pretty gnarly bump steer.

For racing though, the lower the better for the suspension parts.
 
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I've got the stock keys still and I can smash the bump stops and did when I was trying boosted launches, I actually have to have about 4 turns on the adj bolts to keep off the bump stops and it rides really nice like that. I had thought about cutting the bump stops and I also found an aftermarket set that looks like a wedge that I thought about getting that might give more room?
I'm really kinda bent about my choice to lift my rig, I went from havin it pretty dialed in to havin a bunch of issues. I would really like to get this figured out, and my 4x4 engagement/disengagement issue and front driveshaft vibration issue that all occurred when the lift went on:mad:

As for the font wheel hop issue. The more I read/think/see the more I think my stock centerlink needs to go. Might go to a full kryptonite front set....someday, but sooner than later. I probably should be more worried about getting the truck running right now tho :eek:
 
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Coco, when you get wheel hop is it jerking the wheel left to right or everything stays perfectly straight but one tire just spins and bounces on launch?
 
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