To much pigeon toe

quinton

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I don't know if the tie rods are parallel with the CVs or not, but looking back at the pictures, I can see the CV axle looks pretty flat even with the tires all toed in. If the tie rods and CVs are pretty much the same angle, I would say the lifting isn't your problem. Something has to be flexing or giving to make the tires move like that.


It's just confusing when my buddies truck has more power and I can launch twice as hard and it's smooth, yet only difference is kryptonite vs Ppe centerlink and tie rod sleeves.
 

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It is something in your front end. I could leave at 30-35#'s boost on cheater slicks with -24mm 10" wheels on a stock link with braces and sleeves. QA1's might help you out. My front end doesn't lift much. Funk leaves then line way harder than me and cuts high 1.40's on your same setup. Not sure what is causing it but I don't think it is your aftermarket parts.
 

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Mine doesn't hop at all at 15-18# launches. PYO's and Terra Grapplers, tony's brace and sleeves with the T Bar bolts removed.

You have a straight centerlink? Shouldn't have any centerlink roll with that. I think you need to get some adjustable shocks up front as everyone else said, you are raising your front end WAY up on launch.
 

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It is something in your front end. I could leave at 30-35#'s boost on cheater slicks with -24mm 10" wheels on a stock link with braces and sleeves. QA1's might help you out. My front end doesn't lift much. Funk leaves then line way harder than me and cuts high 1.40's on your same setup. Not sure what is causing it but I don't think it is your aftermarket parts.

Holy crap!! I can't be the only one waiting for you to burn down a 10sec pass! :thumb:
 

quinton

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Mine doesn't hop at all at 15-18# launches. PYO's and Terra Grapplers, tony's brace and sleeves with the T Bar bolts removed.

You have a straight centerlink? Shouldn't have any centerlink roll with that. I think you need to get some adjustable shocks up front as everyone else said, you are raising your front end WAY up on launch.


Yes straight center link. I do have adjustable shocks. Rancho 9000's
 

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Not a stupid question at all. I don't believe they are stock. I do have a lift kit it it's lowered all the way down.


Leveling keys will put more preload on the bars than stock keys. The hex is indexed, so even when you back the bolts off and the keys are sitting on the nuts, its not the same as a stock key backed all the way off. Might be worth a look.
 

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I'm going to get some parts coming this way for TS so I don't get the dreadful awwww sound again. I'm gonna try a dhd brace with the straight centerlink, lot of guys seem to like how it stiffens things up.
 

Burn Down

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Leveling keys will put more preload on the bars than stock keys. The hex is indexed, so even when you back the bolts off and the keys are sitting on the nuts, its not the same as a stock key backed all the way off. Might be worth a look.

This is were I would start ^^^^^ Make sure you have stock keys first. I run a solid center with 20x10 -19 offset BMF's with big heavy 33" toyo at's. My truck launches nice and straight... Bitch to turn with the adjuster bolt out of the keys though...
 

quinton

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This is were I would start ^^^^^ Make sure you have stock keys first. I run a solid center with 20x10 -19 offset BMF's with big heavy 33" toyo at's. My truck launches nice and straight... Bitch to turn with the adjuster bolt out of the keys though...


What's the hardest you've launched it? Y'all really think keys would cause that much toe in? The offset part I would believe but as I said earlier my buddy has exact same setup except he has kryptonite kit. Same rims, tires, lift.
 

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