The DP is pathetic

Mike L.

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How about promoting peace around here then,Pat? That would be the best tactic, not throwing more gas on the fire.

I think the best tactic would be for you peace agents to post your Cum Ba Ya retoric at TDP and get reinstatement for people that realy contribute.
 

McRat

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How about promoting peace around here then,Pat? That would be the best tactic, not throwing more gas on the fire.

As long as personal insults are kept to a minimum, then folk can post what they want. We had a public poll and the members decided.

At first, we did censor some of the criticism of TDP here, but it changed nothing. People were still being banned from TDP for what they posted HERE.

Perhaps if you "un-ban" everyone you banned in the last year, that would "Promote Peace". And stop reading the PM's; listening in on private conversations just starts trouble.
 
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Josh: You made such an idiot out of yourself over there I'm suprized you even have the nerve to talk to me.
I don't like A/F and I sure as hell don't like V/S but I like DP. You got yourself banned and you know it.Play smart and maybe you'll avoid a second ban :eek:.

Pat: You provide me fact where anyone but a certain person read PM's and you'll have some ground on me. None there now except maybe Stew {admin} can read PM's. I've done my homework cause I too was wondering if it was true.

Mack: You're barking up the wrong tree buddy. I'll do whatever I feel like cause I don't do things to get banned or put into a shit usergroup :eek:. Don't take it out on us Mods when you know darn well who caused the issue and it wasn't any of us Mods. BTW why keep stating the same damned facts? We already know them. Just wondering?

MikeL: If you have a suggestion PM me over there. I too would like to see some real contributions rather than all this BS I have been seeing.

Get real Kyle, AF is calling....:baby:
 

Josh2002cc

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Oh Kyle you make me laugh. You say I made myself look like an idiot, actually I say everyone who doubted my predictions on a certian product that is now not even available anymore owes me a phat appology...I would like to start with you so when your ready I am waiting.....

BTW did you ever get that certain product that we as "moderators" were not allowed to question in your opinion? You sure deserve it after how many grass stains were on your pant legs.:eek:

Go ahead and ban Josh2002cc x 2 I assure you that I will be back with Josh2002cc x 3 and x 4 and x 5...:p
 

Josh2002cc

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Josh: You made such an idiot out of yourself over there I'm suprized you even have the nerve to talk to me.

Kyle how many PM's or "report a post" and "contact a site admin" did I send asking you to call me and talk to me about this on the phone? Well, you never called or even responded. Until you make half the effort to contact me to be a man about this, do not talk to me about nerve. Now run along and hide behind your green username.

On edit, I am sure you do like DP. ;)
 
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I will apologize for that cause I didn't expect it to turn out that way and you were right. Not saying your tactics were right because they weren't but the product proved to be non-cost effective and the Vendor never gave me shit. Hell after talking with Landon at Midwest and a few other pullers I started looking at the product the way you did :eek:.

Oh Kyle you make me laugh. You say I made myself look like an idiot, actually I say everyone who doubted my predictions on a certian product that is now not even available anymore owes me a phat appology...I would like to start with you so when your ready I am waiting.....

BTW did you ever get that certain product that we as "moderators" were not allowed to question in your opinion? You sure deserve it after how many grass stains were on your pant legs.:eek:

Go ahead and ban Josh2002cc x 2 I assure you that I will be back with Josh2002cc x 3 and x 4 and x 5...:p
 
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You want to know why I never called you? You were labeled crazy :rofl: and the Admin at the time said zero contact. You acted like you wanted to destroy everything and we sure didn't need that. Called protecting site interests. That explain anything?
You asked me to call you once. I can provide the PM if need be.

Kyle how many PM's or "report a post" and "contact a site admin" did I send asking you to call me and talk to me about this on the phone? Well, you never called or even responded. Until you make half the effort to contact me to be a man about this, do not talk to me about nerve. Now run along and hide behind your green username.

On edit, I am sure you do like DP. ;)
 
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McRat

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... Pat: You provide me fact where anyone but a certain person read PM's and you'll have some ground on me. None there now except maybe Stew {admin} can read PM's. I've done my homework cause I too was wondering if it was true.

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Not sure how to read that. Could you be a little more clear?

I know adminstrators read my PM's. I was speaking to one of them on the phone, and they quoted word for word what was in a PM to another member, who hadn't even read the PM yet. Also, I had a second username so I could relay technical information without it being given out to other shops, and that username was banned due to the contents of a PM. There were many less obvious occurances over the years as well.

Plus, other members here have been banned at TDP for the content of their PM's.

Neither I or Kat even has the access required to read other folk's PM's here. Only Rob has the correct access to impliment reading PM's and he has sworn to uphold the member's privacy 100%. He's as honest a man as you will find anywhere.
 

Mike L.

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Josh: You made such an idiot out of yourself over there I'm suprized you even have the nerve to talk to me.
I don't like A/F and I sure as hell don't like V/S but I like DP. You got yourself banned and you know it.Play smart and maybe you'll avoid a second ban :eek:.

Pat: You provide me fact where anyone but a certain person read PM's and you'll have some ground on me. None there now except maybe Stew {admin} can read PM's. I've done my homework cause I too was wondering if it was true.

Mack: You're barking up the wrong tree buddy. I'll do whatever I feel like cause I don't do things to get banned or put into a shit usergroup :eek:. Don't take it out on us Mods when you know darn well who caused the issue and it wasn't any of us Mods. BTW why keep stating the same damned facts? We already know them. Just wondering?

MikeL: If you have a suggestion PM me over there. I too would like to see some real contributions rather than all this BS I have been seeing.

Nick still reads pm's. He read one that I sent to Josh and imediately posted certain contents in a thread that he could have never known unless he read that pm. I believe Josh was banned within minutes of that pm being sent.
Of course he denied it.
 

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Neither I or Kat even has the access required to read other folk's PM's here. Only Rob has the correct access to impliment reading PM's and he has sworn to uphold the member's privacy 100%. He's as honest a man as you will find anywhere.


Just another reason this site continues to grow. Privacy and being able to state your case without the fear of repercussion.
 
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What I meant is none of the current staff with the exception of maybe Admin can read PM's. I have no understanding on how one can read them but I know it can be done, just like you do. MikeL's openion may be correct about who is reading them.

MikeL: Nick had nothing to do with Josh's ban. I can tell you that for a fact. He wasn't even online when Josh got nailed.

Not sure how to read that. Could you be a little more clear?

I know adminstrators read my PM's. I was speaking to one of them on the phone, and they quoted word for word what was in a PM to another member, who hadn't even read the PM yet. Also, I had a second username so I could relay technical information without it being given out to other shops, and that username was banned due to the contents of a PM. There were many less obvious occurances over the years as well.

Plus, other members here have been banned at TDP for the content of their PM's.

Neither I or Kat even has the access required to read other folk's PM's here. Only Rob has the correct access to impliment reading PM's and he has sworn to uphold the member's privacy 100%. He's as honest a man as you will find anywhere.
 

MACKIN

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Pat: You provide me fact where anyone but a certain person read PM's and you'll have some ground on me. None there now except maybe Stew {admin} can read PM's. I've done my homework cause I too was wondering if it was true.

Mack: You're barking up the wrong tree buddy. I'll do whatever I feel like cause I don't do things to get banned or put into a shit usergroup :eek:. Don't take it out on us Mods when you know darn well who caused the issue and it wasn't any of us Mods. BTW why keep stating the same damned facts? We already know them. Just wondering?

MikeL: If you have a suggestion PM me over there. I too would like to see some real contributions rather than all this BS I have been seeing.

First off all please don't muck up our thread take personal agendas to PM's so we all don't have to suffer.

Thank-you




First off I know for fact that PM's have been read in the past and that PM's are still being read TODAY! Someday I will disclose this information for NOW confidentiality will hold true.

WHY? Loyalty


I constantly hear HOW the moderators over there complain how they DO NOT like the present Administrator and the DIRECTION the forum is taking. I also repeatedly hear that it will NEVER be the same or 'come' back to it's hay day. That is VERY obviously true.

So why the loyalty?

Why are you guys going on different forums preaching to have some kind of 'faith' "preserve' when you guys KNOW yourselves what is and will happen. BUT yet you continue to support for FREE the sinking ship.

I am not BARKING UP your tree or anyone's tree but simply stating the facts. I have from the VERY beginning and have been 100% correct. For me stating the facts over there I was put into a very special group for my words of wisdom. Apparently like a puppy that had his nose rubbed in the poop on the carpet ,he knew he was wrong,they are wrong,and they didn't like it.

So for the people that chose to listen I am the voice of reason! :D

The reason to NOT help them anymore than we have helped ONLY to be tossed to the curb like a red headed stepchild and that VERY much includes the revenue there,THE VENDORS! If NOT for those vendors that SITE would NOT be what it is today filled with the best information that you have ever witnessed in your lifetime.

For that they are competing with Ebay for transgo kits after some NEWBIE comes in and robs are information on why they work and how to install! People selling HP add ons seeing the posted results can use that information and Google the best price known to man BECAUSE THEY DON"T CARE!

No loyalty no history NOTHING!

How will you PAID Admins and leads defend members attitudes about it's a free market ,free world and ask to support the vendors that built that site?

You cannot because the OWNERS are making a ton of money off of Google adds it's RIGHT there!

As far as being banned I don't care ,I know where my loyalty is. You guys obviously DON'T!

So show your loyalty ,fight for something you yourselves don't EVEN believe in. So I will keep stating the facts like you to preserve it HERE for history for future wanderers the shame of it all!

I'm glad you are happy to be part of the team there. I just checked and I see you have only been there since 05 so we already had a big head of steam going before you showed up.

God bless ,good luck,your gonna need it!