Smog Check California

Mike L.

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Just had my LML smogged and saw the new machine which CA will be using shortly. It plugs into the OBD2 under dash and sees everything. It will know what's connected or not. No more rev it up 3 times and if it doesn't smoke, you're good to go. Gutted cats will not pass. Missing EGR's will not pass.
They took this out of the hands of the techs and gave it to a machine.
Think twice about deleting guys. The shit is fixing to get serious.
 

mike diesel

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It's been that way in salt lake city for the past 5 years. Has to pass obd and a visual test. It sucks but it is what it is. Luckily I keep all my stock parts for that very reason.
 

SoCalMike

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Well that sucks! Glad I never deleted anything. I just passed smog in march. 2 more years for me till I have to do it again.
 

DAVe3283

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They plugged in the OBD2 for my brother's truck in Cali earlier this year too. It's a LB7 where the EGR mysteriously fell off. Tune is set up so that 0 EGR flow is expected, so diagnostic runs and passes.

So I think that if the delete is done right, and the tune reports the subsystems as functional, the OBD check will pass. If the tune reports the susbsystem as not present, I'm guessing it won't let you pass.

Just one more reason I bailed out to Idaho.
 

kmb760

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With a LB7 and no O2 sensor I would think you could still run a hollow cat and straight pipe?
 

SBLC

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It's been that way in salt lake city for the past 5 years. Has to pass obd and a visual test. It sucks but it is what it is. Luckily I keep all my stock parts for that very reason.

You need to move northward and get out of SLC; I have never had them hook anything to my OBD port.

The day that they want to rev my truck three times will be the day I commit Hara Kiri. Why would I allow some smuck to beat the crap out of my stuff? As bad as it sounds I would rather have an OBD scan than rev it 3 times. In an ideal world I would have no emissions for diesels, and charge Prius/Leaf drivers a 45% tax on their registration for battery disposal/hazardous materials. They have to dispose of the batteries somewhere and I have to live in the same world where the toxic waste is disposed of, and think of the children's children:eek:. Also if you drive a Prius/Leaf and get in a car wreck a Hazmat response team is automatically called, and a $5,000 dollar minimum is charged to clean up your battery juice :D.


Watching this video of the 3 rev test would make my blood boil if that was my truck. [WARNING: STRONG LANGUAGE, REDNECK]
http://youtu.be/-xiJf08BCKE?t=5m5s
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Mike L.

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The dude speaking is an idiot and a whimp. The truck is not being hurt unless the oil is low or hasn't been changed for a couple of years.
 

c20elephant

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My 82 C20 has be to tested on rollers every year, I recall when GM made a fulltime four wheel drive truck in the half ton models I believe about the 1974 model year. The end result was a severely damaged truck when the front axle lock in around 25-35mph...

Maricopa county still does the snap test with a tube connected to the exhaust, no OBDII YET for diesels....
 

mike diesel

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Sep 6, 2012
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I stopped watching after 19 seconds. I think he said "friggin" about 15 times in 19 seconds. I can't imagine the rest of the video. I concluded that guy Is some sort of inbreed and should not associate himself with the general public in fear of his retardation spreading.
 

RedHotGMC

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I stopped watching after 19 seconds. I think he said "friggin" about 15 times in 19 seconds. I can't imagine the rest of the video. I concluded that guy Is some sort of inbreed and should not associate himself with the general public in fear of his retardation spreading.

X2...

As for az everytime ive had to get tested they always have isses with the machine so I end up doing 7 throttle snaps, after that I had my limiter moved to 2100 rpm and ill gladly do the throttle snap test lol.
 

SBLC

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I absolutely agree with the above statement; this dude is challenged, but that wasn't the point which was to demonstrate the smog snap test.

How many of you guys go out and free rev your truck just because "its not hurting it"? I know there is an SAE paper defining the smog snap test, and eluding that it doesn't hurt the motor. SAE would have engineering support in writing the paper which you could say helps validate that there is no immediate damage due to the test, but that doesn't mean I want to do it to my motor. I agree that when running the motor within operating parameters (i.e. incipient to the rev limiter, proper oil pressure, not overheating, no previous motor damage) there will be a safety factor on the components(i.e. it was designed to those parameter). However, I don't think that a select few should be required to take their car (not hybrid), truck,motorcycle, scooter, etc to the limit of the operating parameters (e.g. hitting the rev limiter). Would you agree that there could be a degradation to the life of a motor if it was running at 3200 RPM instead of 2000 RPM? Yes, probably miniscule, but the motor is doing more revs per minute then one that is not performing the test. Also, my truck never gets the pedal to the floor so to see someone else do it wouldn't sit well with me. [Side note: I know that Efi-Live can take care of my issue with the snap test which I am not currently required to due, but its the principal that gets my goat].

Once again I would rather do a OBD test (assuming it just checks for check engine lights and not sensor voltage readings, parameters, etc) compared to the snap test (assuming I can't use Efi-live for some odd reason). Just my thoughts
 

catman3126

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Jul 24, 2012
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doesn't hurt anything to rev it to the rev limiter, that's what its there for. we raise our rev limit in tuning all the time
 

LBZ

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God bless Alberta-none of that shit here.:woott: