Off Season Sled Pulling Mods

kusileksledpull

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Since 2011 there has been no rule in ppl about OEM frame. But if there was a rule i would be legal anyway. All we did was cut the back 18 inches of that does nothing. The pipe we put in is there only for the bump stops. The frame is still 100% stock OEM frame, and for the record if it does stretch the rules theres alot good truck that will be in the same boat.

ISP requires full factory frame rails, PPL is the same. Not sure how kuseliks new truck will pass that rule with the rear of their frame..
 

EDP

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PPL states nothing about OEM Chassis or Frame since 2010 nor do I see anything in NTPA.

EDIT: Wes Beat me to it.

Also if that was the case how does Beetz pass? Last I scene a k2500 chassis the frame rails did not look like that. IIRCC rule use to state stock un altered chassis then people started making 10 foot boxes etc.
 

bubba2400

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PPL states nothing about OEM Chassis or Frame since 2010 nor do I see anything in NTPA.

EDIT: Wes Beat me to it.

Also if that was the case how does Beetz pass? Last I scene a k2500 chassis the frame rails did not look like that. IIRCC rule use to state stock un altered chassis then people started making 10 foot boxes etc.

Bingo, poor rules wording strikes again!! Ha.
 

duramaxsandwich

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not picking on wes but here's what i had for rule changes. i do agree the rules could use some clarity. i dont see any advantage weight wise doing what wes did to the back of the truck, i would bet the tubing added weighs close to what the stock frame piece did.

2012 Class Rule Changes/Updates
Jan. 19, 2012
Light Weight Super Stock Tractors

#2B- V-8 engines are not permitted.

Super Modified Tractors

Change #5: All turbine powered tractors will be limited up to 9,460 horsepower rating including water rated as 10%.

Pro-Stock 4x4 Trucks

No Changes.

2.6 Diesel Trucks

Drivers Suits follow Rule #1 under General Rules.
All vehicles will have an air shut-off assembly. (Raincap or guillotine)

3.0 Diesel Trucks

Rule #1 Change: Maximum weight 7800#. Minimum weight of 7200#.

Rule #2 Trucks must remain stock appearing. Must have full size steel or OEM type body.

Add to #3B – No aftermarket blocks permitted.

Add #17B OEM Chassis only, no tube chassis allowed
 

kusileksledpull

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Thanks for the update, but my point is its still a OEM chassis 100%


2012 Class Rule Changes/Updates
Jan. 19, 2012
Light Weight Super Stock Tractors

#2B- V-8 engines are not permitted.

Super Modified Tractors

Change #5: All turbine powered tractors will be limited up to 9,460 horsepower rating including water rated as 10%.

Pro-Stock 4x4 Trucks

No Changes.

2.6 Diesel Trucks

Drivers Suits follow Rule #1 under General Rules.
All vehicles will have an air shut-off assembly. (Raincap or guillotine)

3.0 Diesel Trucks

Rule #1 Change: Maximum weight 7800#. Minimum weight of 7200#.

Rule #2 Trucks must remain stock appearing. Must have full size steel or OEM type body.

Add to #3B – No aftermarket blocks permitted.

Add #17B OEM Chassis only, no tube chassis allowed
 

duramaxsandwich

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PPL states nothing about OEM Chassis or Frame since 2010 nor do I see anything in NTPA.

EDIT: Wes Beat me to it.

Also if that was the case how does Beetz pass? Last I scene a k2500 chassis the frame rails did not look like that. IIRCC rule use to state stock un altered chassis then people started making 10 foot boxes etc.

beetz have full factory frame rails, they're just narrowed in back.
 

quadracer37

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Yeah, its oem chassis minus the last 10% of it...you added tube in place of an oem part of it. Personally I don't really care, its just another lose written rule interpreted by everyone differently I guess
 

duramaxsandwich

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I dont see why you can't, but I am uncertain on rules for ISP never looked at there's.

we try and make our rules as close to PPL as possible, however, we thought it would be a bad idea to base our rules entirely on PPL rules for that year. I dont think anyone in our club wanted to be stuck with rules that we didnt vote on.

but i think the bottom line is, no one is going to turn wes away for having a borderline oem frame (imho) bc badger has a hard enough time just getting a good truck count.
 

kusileksledpull

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Everyone has there own opinion, and im not here to knock them or change minds. But my frame is not border line OEM from axle to axle it is completly a stock frame 100%. All we did was make are bump stops out of round pipe, so basically if i had used square tubing and came strsight out for my bump stop this would have never got brought up? Last point there are more out there that have the same thing done, so alot good trucks would be in trouble. But i see your point theres alot rules that could be viewed in a million different ways!

we try and make our rules as close to PPL as possible, however, we thought it would be a bad idea to base our rules entirely on PPL rules for that year. I dont think anyone in our club wanted to be stuck with rules that we didnt vote on.

but i think the bottom line is, no one is going to turn wes away for having a borderline oem frame (imho) bc badger has a hard enough time just getting a good truck count.
 

duramaxsandwich

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Everyone has there own opinion, and im not here to knock them or change minds. But my frame is not border line OEM from axle to axle it is completly a stock frame 100%. All we did was make are bump stops out of round pipe, so basically if i had used square tubing and came strsight out for my bump stop this would have never got brought up? Last point there are more out there that have the same thing done, so alot good trucks would be in trouble. But i see your point theres alot rules that could be viewed in a million different ways!

from what i've seen i agree 100%. its the last 2' that some people might have a problem with
 

kusileksledpull

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Add #17B OEM Chassis only, no tube chassis allowed.

NO were does that say complete oem chassis, and no were does it say you cant use round tubing for bump stops, i guess that would be my answer to them. BUt anyway you making any changes for next season?

from what i've seen i agree 100%. its the last 2' that some people might have a problem with
 

duramaxsandwich

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Add #17B OEM Chassis only, no tube chassis allowed.

NO were does that say complete oem chassis, and no were does it say you cant use round tubing for bump stops, i guess that would be my answer to them. BUt anyway you making any changes for next season?

just gonna try and put more weight out front and a few more ponies under the hood