Nitrous basics

LBZ

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But it needs to be -10C (about 14F) for them to make snow as if it was just 0C it would just make rain.
Steve

If your talking about the snow making machines on that little hill in Edmonton, your probably right. But on a real mountain, the wind carries the mist farther so it has more time to freeze before it hits the ground. I pretty much lived on a skill hill for 5 years and I have moved and operated these things-it does not need to be -10C, but it does need to be at least a few degrees below zero.

But this is OT:D
 

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This supercooled water shows nothing as you can superheat water too it is more about what it is cooled/heated in and how slow you cool/heat it. Use a glass bowl that is as clean as it can be and fill it part way cool/heat it slowly over 3-5 hours you can make it colder then its freezing point or hotter then its boiling point. If you try the hot way watch out as you can make water explode...


But what do I know I just cut steel for a living.

Steve
It shows I wasn't wrong. Didn't you read the posts? I pretty much spelled it out.

Oh, I can see this now! What would Seabass do?
Kick his ass, Sea Bass!
 

sweetdiesel

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apology for what josh?

water does not allways freeze @ 32* look at your stream in the woods, or a river you live by.....when it's 32* out chances are there not frozen.

Molecular stuff again....Something about molecules wont organize
The more movement the harder it is for crystals to form

it's really hard to fine "Pure" water unless your bying bottled water, with no salt, sodium, or calcium allready in it, that alone will drop the freeze point about 15-20*

Ive honestly never seen bottled water with salt in it....Gross!

Changing the salinity could lower the freezing point to -20c +/-

Plus to end all arguments, water in a water meth system is a mist or vapour, not a liquid.........so were discussing something that is not relivant!

Why do you think Superdiesel had the ice sheets?
 

WolfLMM

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I'm still waiting for KB's programable n2o, cng, propane, water meth nozzle? :rolleyes:
 
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After reading therough 4 pages of BS that I was behind on I got little to no usable tech data. Water freezing on the outside tells me nothing about the W/M that was inside the pipe. For one Methanol lowers the freezing temp of water - the air on the outside of the intake tracts (I'm guessing a humid day) would stick to any surface colder than the ambient air, just like "sweat" on a glass of ice water. If that surface is below freezing the "sweat" will freeze, just like a frozen bottle of water will form frost on a hot humid day. You add a fan to keep plenty of humid air flowing over the cold surface for the water to be taken out of and temps a little further below 32* and you get sheets of ice quickly. What does all or any of that have to do with water/meth/air mixture flowing at 200mph inside the tube? Washer fluid is W/M and doesn't freeze until well below 32*, the higher the meth % the lower the freezing point. Now can we stop arguing about the chemistry/physics of water (which isn't too relavent to W/M anyway) and who runs what brand of truck and get back to helpful info about nitrous on a turbo diesel.
 

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After reading therough 4 pages of BS that I was behind on I got little to no usable tech data. Water freezing on the outside tells me nothing about the W/M that was inside the pipe. For one Methanol lowers the freezing temp of water - the air on the outside of the intake tracts (I'm guessing a humid day) would stick to any surface colder than the ambient air, just like "sweat" on a glass of ice water. If that surface is below freezing the "sweat" will freeze, just like a frozen bottle of water will form frost on a hot humid day. You add a fan to keep plenty of humid air flowing over the cold surface for the water to be taken out of and temps a little further below 32* and you get sheets of ice quickly. What does all or any of that have to do with water/meth/air mixture flowing at 200mph inside the tube? Washer fluid is W/M and doesn't freeze until well below 32*, the higher the meth % the lower the freezing point. Now can we stop arguing about the chemistry/physics of water (which isn't too relavent to W/M anyway) and who runs what brand of truck and get back to helpful info about nitrous on a turbo diesel.

X2
 

super diesel

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After reading therough 4 pages of BS that I was behind on I got little to no usable tech data. Water freezing on the outside tells me nothing about the W/M that was inside the pipe. For one Methanol lowers the freezing temp of water - the air on the outside of the intake tracts (I'm guessing a humid day) would stick to any surface colder than the ambient air, just like "sweat" on a glass of ice water. If that surface is below freezing the "sweat" will freeze, just like a frozen bottle of water will form frost on a hot humid day. You add a fan to keep plenty of humid air flowing over the cold surface for the water to be taken out of and temps a little further below 32* and you get sheets of ice quickly. What does all or any of that have to do with water/meth/air mixture flowing at 200mph inside the tube? Washer fluid is W/M and doesn't freeze until well below 32*, the higher the meth % the lower the freezing point. Now can we stop arguing about the chemistry/physics of water (which isn't too relavent to W/M anyway) and who runs what brand of truck and get back to helpful info about nitrous on a turbo diesel.



Just trying to get a relevant reason why this was happening and how would this associate with whats going on inside. Maybe this brings reason to the question and stated info? It was in a very dry state in June at 5600ft alt. I did state the freezing temps of meth earlier. The windshield washer fluid (I assure you) WILL freeze when the N2O hits it at around -120 or so. Running a 50/50 (unwise from predetonation) will lower it some, but not nearly enough. This was also in reply to a question presented that was relative to this thread.
 

Killerbee

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Reality, we don't use 100% nitrous. If lucky, maybe 20%. Take 4 parts 100 degree air, 1 part -120 nitrous, you get 60 degree charge. :)

I don't think, in reality, that freezing meth/H20 is likely in the summer. To get to the -40 F (or C) needed, means an OD in my opinion. Probably could be done in the winter, but I wouldn't use WMI in cold weather, I justy don't see the benefit. But like all the rest of you,

but what do I know! :)
 

Dockboy

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For those that have to have a standard nitous system, www.gotsqueeze.com is another nitrous company i have helped develop product for before i got involved with nano, i have plenty to add to this as well.... accually im on the front page of there site due to the first record i set in april of 07'

Wade.........................

Just because you used a product does not mean you "helped develop" it:rolleyes:
 

Dockboy

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Well "tested" or "refined" before production may have been a better word choice :D

Wade................

They were in "production" well before you had one in your truck:rofl:

Exactly what did you "refine"?? A line in the instructions that reads......"If you are dumber than a bag of hammers: Read Here":rofl::rofl: