Wagler has an engine Dyno but there's no point in him even testing them since he makes his own rods now.
Fleece has two engine dynos and EDP has one
Wagler has an engine Dyno but there's no point in him even testing them since he makes his own rods now.
Fleece has two engine dynos and EDP has one
Fleece has two engine dynos and EDP has one
While we are counting Danville has one to.
Quite simply your being ripped on what is available currently. You can buy rods capable of supporting well over 1000HP for a small block or big block chevy for less than he is trying to get for these rods. Big name companies have rather large product margins, and many won't even bother unless they are going to see 20-30% gains on there return after paying off the initial investment. I've been out of the game for al ong time, but I know the bill miller rods in our small block race engine were well under a grand when we bought them, and they are for a 9K+ RPM small block in an unlimited application, and made of aluminum. So why should a rod made of a cheaper and stronger per size material be so much more.I'm glad we have another choice and I'm not even questioning the quality (yes guys the Chinese have the same equipment we do and can do quality work just like the good ole USA)
I'm questioning how you can make profit at 1500 a set? Sale quanity will be low.
The problem it's so much more...
Is because you have tons of LS guys wanting rods, along with 20 different rod manufactures...
and 500 guys wanting duramax rods with less than 5 manufactures...
supply and demand is a bitch..
I threw in the towel after I had 10K$ of Brodix heads and 250% exergy's sitting in a box ready for my LLY I was going to build. It's F'ing retarded. Sold it all and joined the LS world. Best move I've made.
Ferm, Brian nailed it! Dmax rods are expensive because nobody buys them!
How about an answer to this question.
To al lthe guys saying just give away a few sets, how do we know this isn't just a hobby to him or somebody legiteamatley trying to help out? Maybe he can't afford the short loss for the CHANCE of a long term gain. Reading this thread validates WHY there isn't new and up and comers making parts. Before the parts are even available, he's got 20 keyboard commandos condemning his parts because he won't give away however many to others for testing. Everybody keeps complaining about the cost of CROWERS, MANLEY, and all the other parts, well why do you think there parts cost so much? So they can afford to give away a few sets here and there for testing, or as sponsors to get the word out. I constantly read on here about people complaining about the costs of these parts compared to what other platforms(like the LS) pay for there parts, but yet when somebody DOES try and come out with an alternative, he is ripped to shreds.
I agree he should post up where he's based out of, and basic figures like forging, materials, and what process's are using. And doing so in the open forum would go a long way to earning trust. But why don't we give him a chance BEFORE we all condemn his products. As i said earlier, he is up against a HUGE hurdle being an unknown, but MANY other companies were unknown's at one time. If he's willing to work with a few peoples as best he can afford to(like he says for the 4 sets of rods), then let somebody else do the testing and quit bashing him. And to the OP, post up some specs on your product. I'm not talking anything proprietary, but basic stuff like material, forging process, weights, and so on should be simple enough.
So we're are you located ?
And the China Duramax Rod pic looks about the same his less water marks.
http://m.alibaba.com/product/1775350614/HUR001-6420-Chevrolet-duramax-connecting-rod.html
Better pics and specs.
http://m.alibaba.com/product/177535...s.html?spm=a2706.7835515.1998800312.13.n43qMM