If i remember right Volkers 10 hole injectors equate to 30% over but could be wrong ?
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If i remember right Volkers 10 hole injectors equate to 30% over but could be wrong ?
Yes... 129% +/- 2%
3400 it dipends what kind a hardware you have on it ... but yes, I would not recommend anybody to run 3400 without the proper hardware, even on stock injectors ...
Thanks guys. So you wouldnt HAVE to run 3400us to see a benefit of these?
I understand that larger injectors could allow you to run less pulsewidth comparably, which should help a person run the same power but with less stress on the engine?
I understand that larger injectors could allow you to run less pulsewidth comparably, which should help a person run the same power but with less stress on the engine?
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you also need to remember that bigger holes = less atomization... say you went with 100% injectors and a stock cp3... efficiency would be less than desirable. Bigger injectors are supposed to cause less stress on your engine though
Less PWM gives you a higher cylinder pressure ... burns more fuel in shorter time ... cracked piston???
we dropped 150 degree from changing stock to 129% with same fuel added (corrected fuel map) and same timing. just thought the shorter pwm signal and some better atomization, mine 29% over has the same diameter as stock ... which means same atomization ...
I bet you wont go there Volker, the truth hurts.
Argue, we are facing facts. Man enough, easy to say when the smoke has cleared and you had your trip to Europe paid for.
Get over it? Tell me what you think I should get over?
I'll tell you what I'm over.
Mike " Volker, I'm sorry I just can't make these injectors work with the information you have provided. The pulse width for 30mpa does not pan out, I need help. I can't make it idle without tons of smoke or a very loud idle. "
Volker " Just up the pressure and see what happens. "
Mike " Ok, wide open seems fine but, I get to 715hp and it's like pulling teeth to get over this without a huge pw and lots of smoke. EGT's are still around 1200 ".
Volker " Just play with the pressure and pw ".
Mike " Ok, but the engine doesn't sound right ".
KNOCK KNOCK, RING RING. NO answer and the end of Volker.
Then I ask you some questions on a different thread, No Volker. I start to really chalk him up as a bad taste.
Then the other thread from which this one is spun. I ask you a question" Which injectors / PW " This is not simple elementary answers with grade school functions " boom you think I'm picking. Well buddy, If not then, now couldn't be better. Same service as 7 or 8 months ago.
Facts are, Two injectors leaky, diesel everywhere even out the tail pipe. Thanks again, these bodies and tips came from .... No fact sheet no promises followed through.... Oh it's got to be the tuner.... So, I resorted to finding anyone which had experience with your injectors. I'll put a list together if they don't mind being mentioned. Sucks to have to read something you can't back up.
So back to the reason for the thread. Your injectors vs. stock....
Cute and pretty at the same time.... Kinda like salt and pepper, two peas in a pod, or Just Great Friends. How about Michael and Michael. Wait, to come up with such a cutie you had to know Mick is a nickname for Michael...
Or, THE MICKS
Just don't mistake the Great Friends part. You'd feel the same if you knew us.
Back to my tests, sure they don't hold water
after 715hp these 29%'s required huge timing meaning very slow. Oh and Idle 45mpa minimum and the noise( [insert]smiley for ears hurting ), does the fastest Duramax idle at say 650rpm or? 3100us with stockers net'd us 750hp, so we should be able to get 750hp. With 2900us and your 29% take a guess. Oh and the 3100us was with a stock engine. The 2900us is with a " built " engine.Wait a minute, it's our controller.
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Back to my tests, sure they don't hold water
Wait a minute, it's our controller.
To hold up water ... in here are the same injectors you had ... 4200 rpm and sounds great ... 342 mph ...
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It takes me wounder what kind a test you do ... when you don't understand the fuel map, fuel lines, injection rate curve, relation of opening and closing of bigger nozzles, how the high pressure fuel side works also the dual CP3, how the suction throttle works ... etc ... yes I can call the errors to the tuner ...
Also I send you two tunes which I just base tuned the Mormon Missile and you didn't get it? I have 10 customers they running since 14 month as a daily driver ... and had none help from me ...
AGAIN ... SUCK IT UP!!!
also do some research ...
http://www.duramaxdiesels.com/forum/showthread.php?p=69084#post69084
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Read my post from before ...
And you wanna know everything, don't you!!! Work yourself there!!!
I'm sucking :baby: .
Your maps, you couldn't even explain your maps. They didn't work, period. Your tunes, thanks for the try, but they didn't work. Hmmm... Could have had something to do with crappy injectors installed in the engine. You're right, I suck but you didn't have any idea I sucked. lol
UHHHHHH, earth to Volker, up to 715 was ok minus the idle.... AGAIN, could have something to do with crappy injectors...
What is very sad, the current set make it idle fine. NO EXTRA HELP FROM ME..... :happy2:
Are you out in left field again Volker? What are you talking about with the
" It takes me wounder what kind a test you do ... when you don't understand the fuel map, fuel lines, injection rate curve, relation of opening and closing of bigger nozzles, how the high pressure fuel side works also the dual CP3, how the suction throttle works ... etc ... yes I can call the errors to the tuner ... "
What a minute, you said yourself, WE HAD YOUR TUNE. TWO OF THEM. lol :rofl:
Is this " Mick not getting the truck started " He got help, he got is started. It was my week off.... :baby:
All in ALL, you didn't get is fixed either. Seems something was missing when it should have been there. HMMMMM......
I recognize the voice of your camera man
Thanks. It was Curtis' little digital camera. It's so bright out there you can't see anything on a screen. Taking pictures is just point the camera and hope it's looking in the right direction.
To answer someone else's question on here about "how much torque." The small turbo was screwed up. On that 299 exit speed run, it was real late boosting the large turbo. When it finally did.....4600lb car, .875 rearend gear, accelerating from 100 to 299 in less than 2 miles. That's how much torque.
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