Manifolds, Up Pipes what brand?

Rhall

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Hmmmm. I dont reacall you sending anything into me for warranty. Had you of done so and there was no modifactions to them they would of been taken care of (in warranty or not). So did you ever send them in? or was it just a phone call that was made?

It was just a phone call, why would i waste the money to ship something that i was told wasnt going to be warrantied?
 

Dan@PPE

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Not sure how this is our fault if the part was never returned to us. $15.00 to get a $450 part repaired or replaced?

I dont think I have ever told anybody that something was not covered under warranty with out seeing it first (picture/in person). Now if someone called up wanting a replacement BEFORE the defective part was seen then yes, I might of said there is no way that is going to happen....
 

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Well, if you have a racetrack in your backyard with decent timing gear and a pit crew handy, I guess dynos aren't that useful.

For the rest of us with smaller backyards, trial and error on a dyno is a critical first step towards creating horsepower.

If you are SELLING crap, and you say "it makes more HP", unless you have a dyno, you are marketing, not engineering or testing.

My posts aren't a dig at any particular shop; there are several hundred shops today that say they engineer everything from scratch and extensively test all products to achieve the maximum gains, and their shiit is FAR better than everything else.

Instead, my comments are directed at the dillweeds who still post constantly that PPE doesn't actually make race parts. You know it's wrong, and you do it anyhow.

I mentioned a few parts ppe relabels as their own, correct me if im wrong on any of them? I could be wrong, but they were re labeled at one time, just like their old manifolds. If it was Steve Cole sending other people parts to be re designed, this web sight would be up in arms, but it is not, and the blind folds are on. When Wade Moody claims something of his own, that is not, he gets a 100 page bashing. Im sure ppe does make a lot of their own race parts, never once said they didnt make anything. I guess being closer to the mecca, i have a different opinion on making "race" parts from scratch. I also have a different opinion on what a "race" part is, i dont think you can buy any "race" part in a kit. Your just getting the same thing joe blow down the road ordered for his truck.
 

Rhall

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Not sure how this is our fault if the part was never returned to us. $15.00 to get a $450 part repaired or replaced?

I dont think I have ever told anybody that something was not covered under warranty with out seeing it first (picture/in person). Now if someone called up wanting a replacement BEFORE the defective part was seen then yes, I might of said there is no way that is going to happen....

Ur right, im making the whole story up :rofl: The blind folds are on once again. Like i said, we fixed it anyways, better than when it left your shop, cause theyre still holding.
 

Dan@PPE

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Never said you were...

Just seems a little unreasonable saying we wont cover something that truly is under warranty (even if out of the warranty period) just to try and make use look bad, when you can not or will not follow our warranty policy.

Sorry it did not work out.
 

Rhall

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To the RelabelRepeaters: "Where was YOUR boyfriend 7 years ago when everything needed to be invented from scratch instead of just copied?"

I seen the first set of headers about that time here in missouri. They came from Rick.... The truck also had a larger turbo long before any kit came out.

Kyle Micheal had 3 cp3s on his truck about the time any dual cp3 kit was released. He had 2 cp3s and a larger turbo long before any turbo kit came out.

There are many people that invented stuff from scratch, when you have someone elses product shipped to get yours designed, how is that from scratch?
 

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I`ll vouch for PPE`s warranty and manifolds and up pipes. I know I dont have a high post number on here but I build and repair these trucks everyday and recently had a issue with some of their parts and they took care of my customers parts 100% And the newest PPE manifolds and up pipes are awesome, they look better, flow as good or better than the old design and make our Dmax`s BARK!! Thanks Dan :thumb:
 

Rhall

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Never said you were...

Just seems a little unreasonable saying we wont cover something that truly is under warranty (even if out of the warranty period) just to try and make use look bad, when you can not or will not follow our warranty policy.

Sorry it did not work out.

Im not even sure what the warranty period is for pedestals, but i was told it was out. Which it very well could have been, but you stated that you guys fix any manufacters defect, in or out of warranty. A broken weld is a manufacters defect considering i wasnt hoisting the truck off the pedestal. If not sending the pedestals back because i was told it was out of warranty is unreasonable, then i guess thats what im being. Turn it around whatever way you want it. Im sorry too.
 

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Why not use same truck just swap parts.
I thought thats what Rick was talking about,could meet on neutral ground same truck, same warm up time ,and have rick dan or someone from PPE the dyno guy and another dyno guy overlooking the runs so its all fair.I know its a pipe dream but it would be very cool if both sides agreed
 

sweetdiesel

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I thought thats what Rick was talking about,could meet on neutral ground same truck, same warm up time ,and have rick dan or someone from PPE the dyno guy and another dyno guy overlooking the runs so its all fair.I know its a pipe dream but it would be very cool if both sides agreed

Im confused here.....What are you going to see on a dyno?

Even on a big HP truck im reluctant to think it will produce more HP going from aftermarket to a stock. hope im wrong though.

I can completly understand better spooling and less drive pressure but not any HP between PPE and Ricks
 

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I feel like the little kid who poked the hornets nest with a stick... :(. Sorry guys I wasn't trying to start a war just wanted some knowledgable opinions on this to make my truck run better.
 

Cornell

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I just installed RDL intake bridge and boost tube/egr delete and I really liked the parts. Can't beat the price either.

If/when I do manifolds and up pipes I will probably go with Pro Fab parts as well.
 

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I just installed RDL intake bridge and boost tube/egr delete and I really liked the parts. Can't beat the price either.

If/when I do manifolds and up pipes I will probably go with Pro Fab parts as well.

Not to get off the subject but I'm guessing you got the RDL 3" bridge? How are you liking it have you seen any improvements?
 

RickDLance

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I feel like the little kid who poked the hornets nest with a stick... :(. Sorry guys I wasn't trying to start a war just wanted some knowledgable opinions on this to make my truck run better.

Not your fault by any means! Misleading claims is all I'm trying to get taken off the board. Talk to one of my dealers. I'll make sure you get a good deal. ;)


Dan, you guys had my permission to copy my up pipes for my manifolds, NOT YOURS!

I've issued a challenge several times now and you refused. I'll play my Ace now and let this go for now.

Remember my little redesign. The one that added a pad where I could do custom engraving for the customer. You remember, the one specifically designed to improve flow. If you wanna talk flow you haven't tested my newest stuff. :):):) You were to busy re-manufacturing what I used to make.

Wherever I find these unsubstantiated PPE claims I'll be posting what I feel is the truth. The way you did me was wrong. You could have done so much better.

Thanks to all those that support the little guy!!
 
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RDL (profab) and even ATS and have installed and ran them all. Without gauges i can honestly say i couldn't feel any difference but I do know which ones fit the best every time and have yet to have an issue with ANYTHING I've purchased and sold that was made by a particular mfg and his stuff has never been back ordered for months either. Thanks Rick for the good workmanship and quick delivery :thumb:

To get Dan's back a little though i will say he did correct issues I had with PPE parts unrelated to this thread but thats the only issue I've had with them as well.
 
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Rhall

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Im confused here.....What are you going to see on a dyno?

Even on a big HP truck im reluctant to think it will produce more HP going from aftermarket to a stock. hope im wrong though.

I can completly understand better spooling and less drive pressure but not any HP between PPE and Ricks

I've been running a lot of PPE parts over the last 7 years. I've watched many of them being made.

It's fun to read threads where "experts" post that PPE is just a relabeler, and that they don't make any of their parts.

It comes up again and again by parts whores who think if they repeat it enough it will become true.

It wasn't true 7 years ago, and it's not true today.

I run PPE riser pipes and manifolds among other things. I've yet to have any significant problems with their performance or quality.

To the RelabelRepeaters: "Where was YOUR boyfriend 7 years ago when everything needed to be invented from scratch instead of just copied?"

If your "Favorite Shop" does not have a dyno, then don't believe any of their BS horsepower claims. They are simply brochure numbers. PPE has been dyno'g Dmaxes since folk were first starting to hotrod them.

I wouldnt think so either, but obviously im wrong. Also in my opinion if someone has been testing their parts on a chassis dyno, their testing has been a joke. Even if it was the beginning of time when folk started hotrodding them. Engine dynos, thats a number i would beleive.