I would remove all the "stuff" so you can atleast get your truck to standard weight. Take it to a gravel pit or somewhere where they weigh trucks.
Yes, on the last yellow. GO!
HTT vs. Cheetah
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I would remove all the "stuff" so you can atleast get your truck to standard weight. Take it to a gravel pit or somewhere where they weigh trucks.
Yes, on the last yellow. GO!
when i go to the track the only thing that i take off is the tailgate. other than that i race it the same way that i drive it everyday
Yea, its good to know what your DD runs in everyday form.
Biggest reason i would take the winch, heavy bumpers, steps bars, toolbox, spare tire and tailgate off is because thats a a$$ load of weight to race with and only makes it harder on the truck/engine parts.......
and your times wont be near as good!
Go bigger! Get the 68 or 71.5mm. I love the sound and performance of my 71.5 Cheetah. Did 13.1 last week with my winch bumper on the front and breaking traction. If I did have to do it all over again though, I would have bought some MPI twins insted for the price difference.
I don't want to spoil anybody's parade... but I wouldn't have high hopes for a 12.5 your first time out.
There is a lot of dedicated guys with quite a few mods that aren't passing that mark by much. I don't know much because I don't drag race, but I do know that it will take a fair amount of setup to get into that range.
There is a lot of dedicated guys with quite a few mods that aren't passing that mark by much. I don't know much because I don't drag race, but I do know that it will take a fair amount of setup to get into that range.
You have to remember that some of the numbers quoted by turbo companies are for the compressor wheel in it's original housing (for hybrid turbos). When you change the AR ratio of the compressor housing or don't have enough difuser area (too big of a compressor for the back plate/housing). It can greatly effect the flow of the wheel. It's like taking a K31 wheel and putting it in a S300. The two housing sizes and AR ratios are quite different so you lose a lot of flow dropping to a S300 chassis.
Can you post a like for the Cheetah maps on DP. I could only find some info on the 64mm. When at 88 lbs per min. is this at the top of the map or the right hand side? I have seen many maps that show 90 lbs/min on the choke line but when you figure it against HP to get the presure ratio it lands at the top of the map no where near close to the 90 lbs/min on the choke line, closer to half 50 lbs/min
as far as i know there are no maps for the cheetahs , the 88 lbs per minute came from one of braydens posts , i have no idea how the # was tested or acheived . if your interested in one it would be best to call him and get the info from the horses mouth .
so you are saying that the flow # came from the wheel that was used and not an actual test performed to get the lbs per minute ?
Not interested in a cheetah, just bought a 4094 avnt from Dan at PPE. I'm just trying to see where they get 88 lbs/min when the 4094avnt has 80 at 2.5 pressure ratio and 50 at 3.62 pressure ratio. This is still a 600 HP charger but it is COMPLETELY at its limits. If you look at the regular 4094r it has a bigger map but on the choke side it is still 80 lbs/min but when compaired to 3.62 presure ratio it is capable of 70 lbs/min and is still 72% efficient. So I agree when you use the same wheels in a different housing you actually need to map that specific turbo because the 4094 avnt and the 4094r have the same wheels but a different A/R.
Kevin
kevin i hope they have done some work on that turbo. they haave been for sale for a while know and some of the people that have bought them have had serious problems with drive pressure. many are not happy with them because they didnt live up to what was advertised
thats the exact point i was going with earlier about how the turbo in question is rated @ 600 hp , i am really not trying to bad mouth cheetah's i think there are alot of people happy with them....... but some of the suporting horse power claims i have seen are a touch higher than they should be IMOP untill i see some maps . like the 71.5 being rated for 700 hp .... even gt 4202's are getting up there in there map @ that power level if you measure @ hp the wheels .
i have heard that about the avnt37 but not the 4094avnt its barley out isn't it ?
On the many hybrid turbo's on the market all they have for data is the wheel in it's original housing. No one wants to pay the money required to have a map generated (around 30k last I heard) in the different housing. The housing change also effects the width and height of the map.
i might be thinking of the wrong turbo i appologize i thought the the 37 was the same size as the 4094