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LBZ

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I love my new truck. Older trucks are fun but it is nice to just jump in a nice, quiet, smooth, worry free ride and go somewhere with the wife and baby. Plus like stated above with the modern traction control I don't have to worry about my wife spinning around in the road when she tries to drive my 550hp truck like she does her AWD explorer.

And mines a Ford so I even tow 20k+ without taking her off the big tune with no worries of kamikaze pistons

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Wow!
Getting a little tired of your Ford rules BS dude.

If you’ve sold your dmax’s maybe it’s about time you moved on.
 

02greysixer

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Wow!
Getting a little tired of your Ford rules BS dude.

If you’ve sold your dmax’s maybe it’s about time you moved on.
It was a joke if you couldn't tell by the smiley faces and ww2 referance. I owe my career and business to the Duramax and this forum I stumbled upon in 2010 after melting down my lb7. I looked for a 15+ Duramax last year when I was in the market. Around here you pretty much can't touch one for less than 45k. So I went with the next best thing, a 15+ Ford I picked up for 28k. I am not a brand loyalist. They all have their good and bad areas.

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Chevy1925

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It was a joke if you couldn't tell by the smiley faces and ww2 referance. I owe my career and business to the Duramax and this forum I stumbled upon in 2010 after melting down my lb7. I looked for a 15+ Duramax last year when I was in the market. Around here you pretty much can't touch one for less than 45k. So I went with the next best thing, a 15+ Ford I picked up for 28k. I am not a brand loyalist. They all have their good and bad areas.

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This isn’t the only time you’ve thrown the ford plug in there. There are quite a few other posts from you as well. The point is, it’s time to knock it off. We know you started in a Dmax but this is a Dmax forum. Stop stirring the pot
 

IOWA LLY

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Or pick up a new body style LML and have it all!!!:D



To bad the LMLs are absolute garbage. I’d take an LB7, LLY, LBZ LMM, or L5P over an LML CP4 equipped hunk of junk any day.

I truly feel sorry for LML owners.


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LBZ

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To bad the LMLs are absolute garbage. I’d take an LB7, LLY, LBZ LMM, or L5P over an LML CP4 equipped hunk of junk any day.

I truly feel sorry for LML owners.


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Are you high?

Your saying that LB7’s which were and are injector eaters unless swapped for SAC style and still a huge pia to change them, Head gasket eating and overheating LLY’s, LBZ piston cracking and crank breaking engines or an un-tuneable L5P are better choices? IMO it’s pick your poison.

Anything classic body style is unfortunately tough to find in great condition and are all outdated now when it comes to the bells and whistles. At least with the last 2 years of the LML you get all the fancy stuff the newest trucks have and if you’re truly scared of the fuel system when they’re off warranty you can cp3 swap for less than a set of LB7 injectors. I haven’t met any disappointed ‘15/‘16 LML owners and have had 3 offers personally from people wanting to buy my ‘16.
 

NC-smokinlmm

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To bad the LMLs are absolute garbage. I’d take an LB7, LLY, LBZ LMM, or L5P over an LML CP4 equipped hunk of junk any day.

I truly feel sorry for LML owners.


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Good, be one less guy wanting one to make them even more expensive...:thumb:

I have had multiple offers for mine bc it is cherry and a rare color...:D
 

Ne-max

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To bad the LMLs are absolute garbage. I’d take an LB7, LLY, LBZ LMM, or L5P over an LML CP4 equipped hunk of junk any day.

I truly feel sorry for LML owners.


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A new cp4, I injectors and rails are still cheaper then a set of lb7 sticks. We are starting to see a huge amount of lbz and lmm injector failures. I like the older ones cause they are simple and the box sits lower. But the newer ones tow way better. They all have ups and downs.
I love listen to people about not having to make payments. Payments only last 6 years and after that you still have a great truck instead of buying some else's problem.
 

IOWA LLY

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The LMLs are going to be an absolute wiring/electronic nightmare in a few years. Already starting to see it.

I predict the LB7s will be on the road long after most LMLs have been parted out or crushed....


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2004LB7

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Wow, this thread sure took a left turn. From "my transmission is broke" to which Duramax is better :D
 

Ne-max

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The LMLs are going to be an absolute wiring/electronic nightmare in a few years. Already starting to see it.

I predict the LB7s will be on the road long after most LMLs have been parted out or crushed....


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Harness rubbing on ac line is super common and map sensor wires break cause of the tension.
 

IOWA LLY

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I was probably harsh in my statements regarding the LML platform. I can see my comments upset some people.

I’m just very disappointed in the amount of issues I see in them. And most are crippling issues (from the owner/driving standpoint) that are from something that was either poorly engineered or tested. I’m just not impressed at all. I know a lot of people really like the towing abilities they offer and of course any of the newer vehicles offer some nice creature comforts over the older trucks.

But I’m sorry, I’m not going to listen to or give much weight to people bragging about the reliability of any vehicle when they trade them off before the factory warranty is up.........

The LML platform can and does perform fairly well after a large amount of money is spent deleting them, and doing a CP3 conversion. Unfortunately they need at least 100 more horsepower then any of the previous Duramax equipped trucks to perform as well on the street or drag strip due to their weight.

The other thing I’m very uneasy about is the boxed frame. Anyone that owns one and lives in the “salt belt” should probably keep that in mind.

The older trucks are more user friendly if your actually using them for work, easier to diagnose and repair, and don’t have to worry about that piece of crap CP4 pump ruining their day.

If I hurt anyone’s feelings that owns an LML I’m
sorry. I just find it very frustrating that every new generation of Duramax got better and more reliable then the previous one (emissions equipment aside as they were forced to do that) until they got to the LMLs. Anyone who is being honest will admit head gaskets on them fail almost as easily and frequently as LLYs, and the CP4 failures and the resulting damage is quite frankly unacceptable from a company like GM. Especially when the CP3 pump was SO reliable.

Plain and simple when you consider how much time and experience GM has had with the Duramax/Allison platform the LML is extremely disappointing. Hopefully the L5P is better.


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PureHybrid

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:roflmao: At least someone finally said it! All you LML owners sound like you're on the rag after that first jab :roflmao:
 

NC-smokinlmm

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It's an LLZ! :hug:

Ive owned them all but an LLY and this LML is tits! Lbz and Lmm were both nice but the rest of the truck was just meh. The newer body style is great, plus boxed frame and better brakes, stabilitrack, traction control, sway control, park assist, backup camera, hands free calling and text, airbags everywhere, heated steering wheel :D, etc...
 

LBZ

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It's an LLZ! :hug:

Ive owned them all but an LLY and this LML is tits! Lbz and Lmm were both nice but the rest of the truck was just meh. The newer body style is great, plus boxed frame and better brakes, stabilitrack, traction control, sway control, park assist, backup camera, hands free calling and text, airbags everywhere, heated steering wheel :D, etc...



I’ve owned them all except an LB7 and I agree. Hands free and the b/u camera are the biggest things I like. I only got 5 years out of my LBZ before it cost me 15g with a major breakdown so hoping for better with this whip.