Ever been a group buy on rods?

[JOHNBOY]

I still call BS on this Mitch.

Although I do not know what the raw material is worth or the time involved to cut a Dmax rod is, taking into consideration the cost of the gasser stuff, even the high HP gasser stuff, I think there is a fair chunk of wiggle room here if they had to turn out say 80 to 100 rods. Especially with half the money down in advance or something like that.

Like I said, the R&D is done and paid for so if it is just the cost of material and services that are keeping the cost high, then I understand, but I doubt it.

I know how big a discount my company gets when we buy 40 conn rods at a time for our 2500HP fluid pumps and it is quite substantial compared to buying one at the tune of $2500 a piece. And this is in a much smaller, more select market!!

On edit: Just to be clear I don't blame the vendors for this. They gotta eat too!!

Call BS if you want. That is cool.

But the mark up is not what you think. I know people look at small block rods and say these are a rip. But no one seems to realize there is a large difference in the the size of the stock used. Bigger stock means more waste. When done almost 70% of the original bar is waste because of the shape of the rod. Plus the high cost of tooling to remove all that stock. Then you need to Heat treat anneal, finish machine. Then after all that you need to inspect them. This inspection includes mag particle. With the alloy used your going to have around 5 to 10% losses just because of failing mag particle. Sucks because you have all that time in money into a finished part and you have to scrap it. Or you end up with a mess like like Ben had.


Yes your paying for the name. But that name doesn't punch holes in your block.:thumb:

 

[LBZ]

I hear ya Johnboy. It makes sense to me to a point. It just pains me to think that it's gonna cost me 5 g's just for rods and pistons, when the rest of the entire engine is less than that and stands up to the same HP. Something just doesn't add up for me there but I guess I just need to get over it and go smash my piggy bank open!

It would be interesting to know what that piece of raw material cost to buy before starting to cut the rod........


On the otherside of things though, what do stock rods cost new?

 

[TheBac]

Found this:

http://www.crowerperformance.com/estore/index.php?cPath=38&osCsid=4dd0d4b3f8b8b69681a29cae77a9aa8f

It is possible for the price to come down....its just a matter of the mfg doing it.

 

[ripmf666]

I hear ya Johnboy. It makes sense to me to a point. It just pains me to think that it's gonna cost me 5 g's just for rods and pistons, when the rest of the entire engine is less than that and stands up to the same HP. Something just doesn't add up for me there but I guess I just need to get over it and go smash my piggy bank open!

It would be interesting to know what that piece of raw material cost to buy before starting to cut the rod........


On the otherside of things though, what do stock rods cost new?

Last time I checked or posted I think they cost a out the same as a set of aftermarket rods.Edit just looked 2,540.00 for a set of new stock LBZ

 

[LBZ]

Wow!! Much more than I thought Henry.
Thanks