Concrete Block? Good or Bad?

Chevy1925

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I guess I forgot to clarify that the motor won't be a daily driver. It'll be a maybe 2000 miles a year motor, with forged pistons, etc. Should have clarified, Im not daily driving it around at 1000 hp lol.
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you will find it wont matter at that HP. the time span just drags out longer. it just means your going to be on that 1000hp tune more, hammering on it more when you do drive it, and thats where it adds up and kills it. ask how many guys how many passes they make at that power level before they need to fix something. you might be surprised
 

Mile_high

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No I am not. Wouldn't be a very smart move...

I purchased a trencher and some of a directional drilling machine with my student loans. Then put them to work and paid it all off before graduating.:thumb:

It was stupid and I wouldn't do it again though.


Back on topic...why are you looking at sleeved motor action?
 

Cknight199

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I purchased a trencher and some of a directional drilling machine with my student loans. Then put them to work and paid it all off before graduating.:thumb:



It was stupid and I wouldn't do it again though.





Back on topic...why are you looking at sleeved motor action?


Well I started this thread just to clarify some things about a concrete motor. Then things escalated into a build type thread but I don't mind, it's good tech and info that I appreciate.
 

Mile_high

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Well I started this thread just to clarify some things about a concrete motor. Then things escalated into a build type thread but I don't mind, it's good tech and info that I appreciate.


I'm not complaining about the direction this train wreck went. I'm curious about why you want to use one. What benefit are you after? Found pricing on it? The guys at mountain high seemed to be big fans of it.
 

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I'm not complaining about the direction this train wreck went. I'm curious about why you want to use one. What benefit are you after? Found pricing on it? The guys at mountain high seemed to be big fans of it.


I haven't done any pricing or anything yet, I know a duramax that cracked a cylinder, but they just pulled it out and sleeved the cylinder. Now idk if that adds any holding potential (I would imagine so depending on what the sleeves are constructed of) but I can't be sure. If the sleeves do in fact help the block hold together, and if the price is right, it may be a good addition to a race motor. But this is a topic that I know very little on and need to do some more research before really justifying anything.
 

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True

They don't like to tell what works and what doesn't, why would they if they have a upper hand. I learned that in mx racing keep mouth shut and don't get protested.. Lol.
Yup just checked. You can take his word and my word for it.

I'm sure there is. People don't like to talk when they are on that level of performance and competition tho.
 

Dirtymaxx03

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They are all sled pullers. A deck plated motor is not needed in drag racing. There's still room to grow in a stock block before they need more power. Drag racing is about functional power.
 

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I didn't realize/think the deckplate engines had the blocks cut down, rather just added the plate to the top of the deck, sleeve it from top of deck down, then run longer rods or special pistons to make the extra length up?


Reckon whatever came of Fleece doing the sleeved 454 duramax?!?!?! That would be soooo badass. :happy2:
 

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I didn't realize/think the deckplate engines had the blocks cut down, rather just added the plate to the top of the deck, sleeve it from top of deck down, then run longer rods or special pistons to make the extra length up?


Reckon whatever came of Fleece doing the sleeved 454 duramax?!?!?! That would be soooo badass. :happy2:

Right, from my understanding they only add to current deck. They do not mill anything off. These $50,000+ motors you hear about in sled pulling from the big companys, ur not necessarily paying for expensive parts as much as paying for the r & d that will not be disclosed to hardly a soul.
 

Dirtymaxx03

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I didn't realize/think the deckplate engines had the blocks cut down, rather just added the plate to the top of the deck, sleeve it from top of deck down, then run longer rods or special pistons to make the extra length up?


Reckon whatever came of Fleece doing the sleeved 454 duramax?!?!?! That would be soooo badass. :happy2:

A connecting rod that long/stroked wouldn't last.