Thats all valving issues. The bars really have nothing to do with it. Have you actually measured your travel or cycled the suspension to see where your limits are?
Coilovers!!
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No I have not. I'm curious what you have done to your suspension. I'm not a suspension guru, I just know the basics of how it works.
Just modded the lca bumpstop bracket for more upward travel and lowered the front end for more down travel. I need better shocks to go jumping it or just swap to coilovers but i have a hard time pulling the trigger on putting coilovers on it. Just more maintence.
So that's the issue. Better shock valving vs. coilover for better ride quality. Coilover has more advantage the way I see it. I'm not quite pressed that better shock valving would help a ton to those who ride hard on the dirt but don't want to spend a ton for long travel setup. Unless you can prove me wrong, I only believe what I see.
If anyone is looking for springs I have an excellent connection for H&R springs.....good friend of mine works for turner motorsports (BMW guys) I told him I need some springs for my coilover setup cause I know they deal with eibach. "Guy I'll get ya some h&r's, eibachs are for civics" hahaha 
I agree, anything can happen, but I would trust it just as much as I would the factory arm. It has about a 1/4" steel plate under the shock mount that provides a lot of reinforcement. I know they're holding up fine on the shop race truck. Oh yeah, the springs are Hyperco 10" 900 lb springs. I looked on their site, but I couldn't find any info.
I agree, anything can happen, but I would trust it just as much as I would the factory arm. It has about a 1/4" steel plate under the shock mount that provides a lot of reinforcement. I know they're holding up fine on the shop race truck. Oh yeah, the springs are Hyperco 10" 900 lb springs. I looked on their site, but I couldn't find any info.
Think they have a calcuator on hypercos site Josh.
While you guys are trying to decide which springs to buy, keep in mind what material they are made of and the treating process they receive... it makes a big difference in durability and ride quality. Just because brand xyz has a 10" 1200lb spring doesn't mean its the best choice. I ended up having custom springs made in Sweden for my 95 Saab turbo when I was building it years ago because people were having issues with sagging, breaking, and bad ride quality with eibachs, h&r, koni, and even some of the specialized springs coming from European tuner companies at the time. I'm fortunate to have a local spring company that will wind coils in house...so that tells me that there's plenty more out there like them. I would ask them what they think prior to purchasing 1000 dollar springs
lol trust me, the ride is all in the shock. look up total chaos old race truck. that front end had 13" of total wheel travel and would pass rangers with 20" of front wheel travel like they were standing still just cause they dialed their suspension in.
What you gain in wheel travel is a softer ride as you can loosen up the compression valving and rebound to let that tire move.
If anyone is looking for springs I have an excellent connection for H&R springs.....good friend of mine works for turner motorsports (BMW guys) I told him I need some springs for my coilover setup cause I know they deal with eibach. "Guy I'll get ya some h&r's, eibachs are for civics" hahaha
wanna see what it would be to make a 3.0" ID, 16" long 1100lbs spring?
I agree, anything can happen, but I would trust it just as much as I would the factory arm. It has about a 1/4" steel plate under the shock mount that provides a lot of reinforcement. I know they're holding up fine on the shop race truck. Oh yeah, the springs are Hyperco 10" 900 lb springs. I looked on their site, but I couldn't find any info.
I would only like some info from them before personally trying them. No facts for it, just opinion so its worth its weight in salt
thanks Russ
yes, i would agree with you on not picking crappy springs. I had an issue with King springs on my King coilovers on my 1500 i built. after 2 5ft tall jumps, my front coil were sagging BIG time. switched to some eibach and never had an issue. In the coilover world, your kinda limited to how you build the spring other than materials. I know hypercoil and eibach are big names in the off road world and ive rarely seen many failures from them but they do happen. Hell i see a ton of King springs out there too and none of them did what my springs did. what pissed me off is King not taking their coil back and replacing it. they blaimed it on abuse
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James do you mean 2.5" I.d....will 3" ones even fit without hitting uca?
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nope, 3.0. i will be running a 2.5" shock on my truck. it should clear my fabtech UCA but if it dont, ill build new ones. My hold up is the spring. you can not get anything heavy enough for a 2.5" shock and i will fade a 2.0 shock off road pretty fast. in all honesty, a 2.5" is too small for the weight but 3.0" and bigger shocks are fricken expensive and big spring rates are really hard to come by in those.
Yeah I agree.....you could always build a lca and mount 2 2.0 shocks
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Yeah I agree.....you could always build a lca and mount 2 2.0 shocks
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lol yeah i think not.
I think he means like this
Sorry about the other "address" this was my old LLY
I think he means like this
Sorry about the other "address" this was my old LLY
those are only shocks though, not coilovers.
I was also thinking of installing 2 coilovers instead of 1. With a shock hoop, lower mount would be on the UCA...If I had two 600lb springs per side, 2"ID (street and strip application only @ 6000 lbs), I think that I would be able to have a simple setup that isn't too expensive and hard to find.
i just know the UCA ball joints will not last. they hardly last with dual shock hoops. in a drag strip only application it would probably work but you will also now need a cross bar/strut bar that can interfere with turbo setups. if you dont, thats alot of leverage on that hoop to make it flex