Can a Duramax spin to 10,000?

Diesel power

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Still way too early for anyone to be an expert on the diesel engine air pump, right tune, right component and high rpms at the moment. Time will tell for sure.

Will you be doing before and after photos as well as dimensional details on the web regarding this disassembly/inspection?

Everything has a lifespan, I built mine specific for what im doing, it should last about 50 -75 passes, maybe longer. I've beat this engine to death, Bad bogs, 5500 rpm launches, 3200 rpm launches, aggresive tire shake, dead hooks, Lots of stalls, several other dumb things as well, and i turn it at least 5600+ every pass.

I Run 40+ psi and shove the engine with 2.5 lbs of nitrous in each 1/8 mile pass, with no intercooler.

Time will certainly tell.
 

Mike

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No reason that a engine like mine should cost any more than 55k, and a banks engine should be less IMO.

Banks will never turn 7k and keep it together with there current set up. Not knocking banks, and i have a lot of respect for what they have done, but im not your average buyer, i know better, and build my own.

Wow, spit it out and tell us what Banks is doing, what is in their engines and what they are doing wrong.
 

Mike

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Everything has a lifespan, I built mine specific for what im doing, it should last about 50 -75 passes, maybe longer. I've beat this engine to death, Bad bogs, 5500 rpm launches, 3200 rpm launches, aggresive tire shake, dead hooks, Lots of stalls, several other dumb things as well, and i turn it at least 5600+ every pass.

I Run 40+ psi and shove the engine with 2.5 lbs of nitrous in each 1/8 mile pass, with no intercooler.

Time will certainly tell.

Heck ya, beat like you're mad at it.

Are you going to share pics and details of your disassembly. :D
 

Diesel power

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Heck ya, beat like you're mad at it.

Are you going to share pics and details of your disassembly. :D
Tough question.
probably not, i still have parts in this engine that are proprietary to me. Most are a first and only of there kind. After it proves to work ,then maybe.
 

Mike

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Banks will never turn 7k and keep it together with there current set up. Not knocking banks, and i have a lot of respect for what they have done, but im not your average buyer, i know better, and build my own.

Sorry, this looked more like a statement than an opinion and just assumed you knew why. I value opinions and respect as such.
 

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Everything has a lifespan, I built mine specific for what im doing, it should last about 50 -75 passes, maybe longer. I've beat this engine to death, Bad bogs, 5500 rpm launches, 3200 rpm launches, aggresive tire shake, dead hooks, Lots of stalls, several other dumb things as well, and i turn it at least 5600+ every pass.

I Run 40+ psi and shove the engine with 2.5 lbs of nitrous in each 1/8 mile pass, with no intercooler.

Time will certainly tell.

I still have never seen the need to spin the ultra high rpm; in a diesel anyway , other than sled pulling , or not being able to get right gearing for the trans or wanting to run fewer gears ( 2-3speed ) , I have yet to see an ultra high RPM diesel motor make more HP or run faster down the track , and until i do i am fine spending 1/4 of the $$ for almost double the hp :D , I think its cool what your trying Wade , I am just not sold on the "need" . But i have never tried to make power in a light chassis either , and I know it changes the dynamics a bit not having the weight to "load" on the motor .
 

Mike

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Tough question.
probably not, i still have parts in this engine that are proprietary to me. Most are a first and only of there kind. After it proves to work ,then maybe.

I respect that, as I said, If I want to know how it will work I need to invest in what I want to know. Without facts though, it could be a tough sell at first until your proven statements are backed up. By sharing however, you could limit total time. It's a tough call for sure.
 

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How long till you'll share isn't that what this is about or are you just in this for $$

This winter when i find time yes i will tell the good or bad news, but i wont be taking pics i dont think.


Money is always good, but i really love being involved and innovating new ideas and parts for these engines.
 

Mike

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I still have never seen the need to spin the ultra high rpm; in a diesel anyway , other than sled pulling , or not being able to get right gearing for the trans or wanting to run fewer gears ( 2-3speed ) , I have yet to see an ultra high RPM diesel motor make more HP or run faster down the track , and until i do i am fine spending 1/4 of the $$ for almost double the hp :D , I think its cool what your trying Wade , I am just not sold on the "need" . But i have never tried to make power in a light chassis either , and I know it changes the dynamics a bit not having the weight to "load" on the motor .

I'd also like to see a high rpm engine, such as the one he's currently testing, in a heavy pickup. :thumb:
 

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Sorry, this looked more like a statement than an opinion and just assumed you knew why. I value opinions and respect as such.

Truthfully i know alot of things in this industry, but im not going to destroy anothers livelyhood, to gain a little. Especially when there are more than one side to every storie

I wouldent want the same done to me. It's been done to me and i wont do it to others. I've learned this lesson a few years ago.
 

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I'd also like to see a high rpm engine, such as the one he's currently testing, in a heavy pickup. :thumb:

I would too , it would be interesting for sure , I know all the theory behind using RPM , but have never seen it applied in diesel's that made me see a definite "merit", where some one show's me "unobtainable" results and either stupid high HP or track times .
 

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I still have never seen the need to spin the ultra high rpm; in a diesel anyway , other than sled pulling , or not being able to get right gearing for the trans or wanting to run fewer gears ( 2-3speed ) , I have yet to see an ultra high RPM diesel motor make more HP or run faster down the track , and until i do i am fine spending 1/4 of the $$ for almost double the hp :D , I think its cool what your trying Wade , I am just not sold on the "need" . But i have never tried to make power in a light chassis either , and I know it changes the dynamics a bit not having the weight to "load" on the motor .

Exactly!, you can make power in your truck just fine without turning the rpm's i do, that i understand. but for me with being as light and gear limited as i am, RPM is the only way to accelerate, there are many advantages, but your right it's not for everyone.
 

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Ive been thinking about venturing up into some higher rpms next season, im just not sure if i want to step up into motor problems.
 

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I'd also like to see a high rpm engine, such as the one he's currently testing, in a heavy pickup. :thumb:

Sure it would work, but the engine comes out a lot harder in a F/S truck than in a drag car.

Coolest thing about this engine, is not the RPM turned, but the Efficient energy the engine produces with so little fuel. Single Cp3, and no tuning at all, just a start up street tune. And its as clean as the banks truck, with out progressive controllers!

Thats what impreses me the most.
 

McRat

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Talking with Gale Banks today, one of their main focuses is high-rpm Dmax applications.

It solves a lot of problems. 1000HP at 7000rpm is easier to configure than 1000HP at 3500. Chamber pressure only needs to be 1/2 with the high RPM config, and the trans only has to handle 1/2 the torque.
 

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Ive been thinking about venturing up into some higher rpms next season, im just not sure if i want to step up into motor problems.

There are things that have to be addressed, in a stock "based" engine. Certainly i wouldent turn a standard engine more than 4800-5k or so on a regular, and that will be limited IMO