LB7: 11.54 @ 118 mph first runs on new motor

[othrgrl]

Whoever wants to step up to the challenge, I'm sure he'd be down to test any of them. I know he has run a McRat Race tune on it (doubt it is as fine tuned as what's on Wendy now), a tune from the Neens, and done alot of his own tuning with some help from all kinds of people. His best time so far is 12.60 on the tune he made. If anyone else wants to get in on the action can call him at 903-754-9286

 

[05smoker]

Whoever wants to step up to the challenge, I'm sure he'd be down to test any of them. I know he has run a McRat Race tune on it (doubt it is as fine tuned as what's on Wendy now), a tune from the Neens, and done alot of his own tuning with some help from all kinds of people. His best time so far is 12.60 on the tune he made. If anyone else wants to get in on the action can call him at 903-754-9286

Since you guys already share tunes, I'm not sure who will send him a tune to try. Justin seems pretty close to you guys for an unbiased test don't you think?

http://www.duramaxdiesels.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6665

 

[Kat]

I know he has run a McRat Race tune on it (doubt it is as fine tuned as what's on Wendy now)

Dustin, I don't know what your are insinuating here?

 

[bullfrogjohnson]

Since you guys already share tunes, I'm not sure who will send him a tune to try. Justin seems pretty close to you guys for an unbiased test don't you think?

http://www.duramaxdiesels.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6665

Seems Unbiased:rofl:

 

[othrgrl]

Dustin, I don't know what your are insinuating here?

I wasn't insulting anything, I was saying that the race tune you run on wendy is probably dialed in better than the "McRat Race" tune that Justin previously ran - so it would be good to see him run the best tune you guys currently have for a stock turbo LBZ. I'm sure that Chris may have improved on the "Neens" tune that Justin has run as well.

To let everyone know it went 12.61 at 104.99 and my truck weighs more than chris's truck. So I don't know what my tune would go in a light extended cab!!!

Also he did help me with my old tune which went (12.78 at 104.10) but my tune went (12.61 at 104.99)

On the biased thing - Justin has run tunes from everyone he could and has gotten tuning advice from alot of people (including me) to help him make his own tunes. Kat and RIPMF all knew he was about to have a baby and was putting the truck on hold - I didn't. He's not close to us, not extremely close to the so cal guys and runs his truck all the time - he also has about the same mods as both of the Chris's. So you are saying that guys that all race together and help each other in Cali and have given us crap in this and other threads would be more unbiased???

 

[slowlmm]

I wasn't insulting anything, I was saying that the race tune you run on wendy is probably dialed in better than the "McRat Race" tune that Justin previously ran - so it would be good to see him run the best tune you guys currently have for a stock turbo LBZ. I'm sure that Chris may have improved on the "Neens" tune that Justin has run as well.



On the biased thing - Justin has run tunes from everyone he could and has gotten tuning advice from alot of people (including me) to help him make his own tunes. Kat and RIPMF all knew he was about to have a baby and was putting the truck on hold - I didn't. He's not close to us, not extremely close to the so cal guys and runs his truck all the time - he also has about the same mods as both of the Chris's. So you are saying that guys that all race together and help each other in Cali and have given us crap in this and other threads would be more biased???:confused:

I wont speak for any one else but as mike L has already stated wether its good or bad I will post wht results are wht. i have done so for every thing i have tested. regardless of my relations with people both good and bad. and i know most others around here would do the same. and if it turns out you can make one of us faster you will get the credit and the business. becuase most of us are int the pursuit of going faster. not bs claims

 

[othrgrl]

Tommy, if your truck was at all set up like Chris's I would take you up on that. But you have to admit you have a bit of an oddball combinations of mods that would take some time to get dialed in. Chris's truck took a few test and tune sessions to get where it is now and that's why I'm confident that his tune would do very well on any similarly equipped LBZ. We'll see what Justin has to say about it - he does already have one of the fastest stock turbo LBZ's in the country so there may not be much room for improvement - we'll see. Chris still hasn't contacted me about testing the tune.

 

[McRat]

Naw, we send our customers out the same tune Wendy runs. No changes since February, and they were minor. Wendy doesn't run a "special tune". It's run the number on lots of trucks. I loaded it on another truck in February at the track (NADM West Event), and it ran similiar numbers. The same tune that's in our library. It was built on a dyno, then track tested. Not my first rodeo.

But this thread is not about Wendy.

 

[othrgrl]

Naw, we send our customers out the same tune Wendy runs. No changes since February, and they were minor. Wendy doesn't run a "special tune". It's run the number on lots of trucks. I loaded it on another truck in February at the track (NADM West Event), and it ran similiar numbers. The same tune that's in our library. It was built on a dyno, then track tested. Not my first rodeo.

But this thread is not about Wendy.

Thanks for the correction, just trying to make sure that if anyone wants to have their tune run against mine that it is their best tune available currently.

Actually this thread was started about a built LB7 that ran an 11.5 on some shakedown runs and now has run 11.41 - all the trash talking brought it around to a thread about our LBZ tuning and challenges of testing the tune on a third party truck so here goes.

 

[05smoker]

Actually it wasn't trash talking that derailed the thread. It was my simple question as to whose tuning it was running and then the trash talking and BS landed us here.

As for the LBZ tune test, I would love to see a good unbiased testing of some tunes. This isn't what I would consider unbiased. Just my 2 cents.

 

[McRat]

Thanks for the correction, just trying to make sure that if anyone wants to have their tune run against mine that it is their best tune available currently.

...

My "best" tune is an LLY tune that runs 10's on fuel with stock sticks and single charger.

We compete with our trucks, and we build tunes based on what we've learned on the dyno, the dragstrip, and hooked to a sled. But we don't race others folks trucks for them. Heck, many folk who run our stuff don't even let on. It's their truck, not ours.

My job is whup anyone who races against us, so I do my best. The tuning is just a byproduct of our racing.

 

[SteveFord]

Othrgrl why not try my idea with your truck or the lbz. Take it to a track that's atleast 1000 feet above sea level and see how it goes. The sea level you guys been running at makes for some good power and fast times. I posted before about racing my old bike at different tracks and the best times have been in Florida compared to anywhere in the midwest i've ran at and this is naturally asperaited. Everyone knows with forced induction the closer to sea level you get the more air gets in and the faster/more power you get. Your tune may not work as well in a truck at higher altitude.

 

[Kat]

I posted before about racing my old bike at different tracks and the best times have been in Florida compared to anywhere in the midwest i've ran at and this is naturally asperaited. Everyone knows with forced induction the closer to sea level you get the more air gets in and the faster/more power you get.

I agree 100%. I went to Sacramento with no tuning changes from when I ran ran in Bakersfield in Feb and dropped .15 and gained almost 2 miles per hour. Only changes where I pulled the back seat, tires, and better air.

Edit-Wish I hadn't lifted the last pass I went 12.58 with my street tires. But that was still better by .07 then my previous best with street tires.

 

[ChevyDieselLLY]

Othrgrl why not try my idea with your truck or the lbz. Take it to a track that's atleast 1000 feet above sea level and see how it goes. The sea level you guys been running at makes for some good power and fast times. I posted before about racing my old bike at different tracks and the best times have been in Florida compared to anywhere in the midwest i've ran at and this is naturally asperaited. Everyone knows with forced induction the closer to sea level you get the more air gets in and the faster/more power you get. Your tune may not work as well in a truck at higher altitude.

thats why they are sending out their tunes to different ppl what better way to test something then in a different place and different ppl.

 

[othrgrl]

So who would be unbiased? Who has an LBZ with a built trans, lift pump, shimmed FPRV and exhaust that has never once talked to anyone that has posted in this thread, doesn't know anyone in the business from Joe Smoe, but will run tunes back to back that anybody up for the challenge sends to them? Oh and they have to be experienced enough at racing their truck to get a couple consistant times on the each tune. I don't know of anyone cause if they have a built trans they obviously have stuff done to their truck and got it from somewhere that they either had a good or bad experience with. I have never sold anything to Justin and don't even know who has, I have helped him with a few tweaks on his tuning - which if anything will make my tune look like it's not "that" much better than what he has.

What tunes are you guys wanting to see ours ran against?

Steve I am trying to find the closest 1/4 mile track that's a good bit above sea level. So far Concord is 690' (5 hours away); Rockingham is 350' (4 hours); ThunderValley is 100' (3.5 hours), Kinston is 125' (1 hour), Coastal is 50' (5 minutes). I checked Virginia and SC and couldn't find a 1/4 mile track above Concord's 690'. I won't drive over 5 hours to go race at a test and tune day. If there is a race with high enough payouts for it to be worth the trip that is at a higher track we'll try to make it. Other than that's it'll have to wait for my next trip to Ohio or NY or Chris's next trip to Ohio, but it's too late in this season for that.

Pat and Kat, don't take any of this challenge personal - I'm just trying to put the arguement to rest. You guys have helped bring DMax performance to where it is today by putting countless hours into testing products, tuning, racing, ect so that many of us never had to - and I have the utmost respect for that. You guys have always been there to help me when I've asked as well.

 

[DIRTYMAX1]

FROM THE MOUTH OF THE GUY WHO IS SO TALKED ABOUT:thankyou: !!

I would like to let everyone know I have received the tune and plan on testing it this weekend.
(if my wife will let me lol..) I have ran it on the street and it feels good, but that don't mean anything. As soon as i get the results I will post the honest results.

Also in regards to the comments of me being honest lets not forget I am testing his tune against my own tune so don't you all think I would want mine to be faster!!!

If you have any questions are would like to throw your hat in the ring, please feel free to call me!!!

Justin Cradure
Pro-Dyne Performance
903-754-9286

 

[Gmclbz]

I would love to test your tune, but don't have the trans together yet...I think that may be a problem.

 

[Mike L.]

So who would be unbiased? Who has an LBZ with a built trans, lift pump, shimmed FPRV and exhaust that has never once talked to anyone that has posted in this thread, doesn't know anyone in the business from Joe Smoe, but will run tunes back to back that anybody up for the challenge sends to them? Oh and they have to be experienced enough at racing their truck to get a couple consistant times on the each tune. I don't know of anyone cause if they have a built trans they obviously have stuff done to their truck and got it from somewhere that they either had a good or bad experience with. I have never sold anything to Justin and don't even know who has, I have helped him with a few tweaks on his tuning - which if anything will make my tune look like it's not "that" much better than what he has.

What tunes are you guys wanting to see ours ran against?

Steve I am trying to find the closest 1/4 mile track that's a good bit above sea level. So far Concord is 690' (5 hours away); Rockingham is 350' (4 hours); ThunderValley is 100' (3.5 hours), Kinston is 125' (1 hour), Coastal is 50' (5 minutes). I checked Virginia and SC and couldn't find a 1/4 mile track above Concord's 690'. I won't drive over 5 hours to go race at a test and tune day. If there is a race with high enough payouts for it to be worth the trip that is at a higher track we'll try to make it. Other than that's it'll have to wait for my next trip to Ohio or NY or Chris's next trip to Ohio, but it's too late in this season for that.

Pat and Kat, don't take any of this challenge personal - I'm just trying to put the arguement to rest. You guys have helped bring DMax performance to where it is today by putting countless hours into testing products, tuning, racing, ect so that many of us never had to - and I have the utmost respect for that. You guys have always been there to help me when I've asked as well.

Just admit you are afraid to send the tune out. Maybe we will spot the secret sig. or maybe it doesn't work.
If I came up with as much bullshit as you I would still be waiting to do my first trans.
Shit or get off the pot.
If you are afraid of Tommy testing, then you know your stuff doesn't work. Cut the shit. Justin, Winston, Dustin, Bustin. Kinda sick of those names.
Don't be gay on this.:gay:

 

[DIRTYMAX1]

Don't put me in that mix im just the tester!!!

 

[othrgrl]

Just admit you are afraid to send the tune out. Maybe we will spot the secret sig. or maybe it doesn't work.
If I came up with as much bullshit as you I would still be waiting to do my first trans.
Shit or get off the pot.
If you are afraid of Tommy testing, then you know your stuff doesn't work. Cut the shit. Justin, Winston, Dustin, Bustin. Kinda sick of those names.

How do you guys not see that Tommy's truck is not much like a stock LBZ? 40 over pistons (at what compression), cam, head work, dual fuelers, ect. The tune on Chris's (DrHolliday's) truck is set up for a single stock CP3, stock motor, stock turbo truck. My offer to send the tune to Chris (Neens) is still open since his truck is set up similar, he just hasn't called or even PMed me to work out the details.

I have already sent the tune out to one test truck and he has already offered to add any other tunes to the test - I think now it's time for the other players to shit or get off the pot. And I think 3 days of solid 12.4s on street tires and stock intake on 2 different tracks, winning his first ever sled pull, getting over 20mpg, and putting out over 530hp proves it works.

And it's just Dustin and Winston - Justin (ChevyDieselLLY) is a customer and Justin (DirtyMax) I have never met, raced with, or sold anything to - just given some free tuning advice to.