1/8th vs 1/4mi racing:
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Only reason I ever raced the 1/8th mile before was just to make sure my setup as far as hooking was working. Hell on one of the biggest bike events a few years ago I drove the extra hour one way to the 1/4 mile instead of going to the 1/8th and run against the other bikes. Cedar Falls let me race 2 bikes for free that day as I was a regular and asked why I was there. Said 5 second 1/8th mile passes are over to quick and if I didn't like to go fast I would have went there instead. I can see a safety issue but shorten it 1000 ft. not an 1/8th if everyones concerned. I like speed so I would favor the 1/4 any day over the 1/8th for racing. I hate watching NHRA when the top fuel and funny cars run 1000ft. instead of the full 1/4.
There is nothing wrong with eighth racing other than it's only half a dragrace unless the track length is being determined to give certain teams the advantage.
The "voting democracy" stuff is horsecrap. That's what we were told in Bakersfield by the same people. Uh, except only ONE team who was racing the event voted for 1/8th, and the rest voted 1/4. Oh, those "other" trucks who were nameless voted by proxy who didn't attend we were told.
Believe me, if it would improve the odds of the TS truck winning to run 1/4 mile, that "poll" post would never have happened. Since the 1/8th is going to help his truck, guess what the track length will be?
Like I said, if you can't run 1320' at full power, (or 5 miles, or 100 miles), you need to adjust your racecar accordingly. You can blow up a TF car at half track also by turning it up, but they understand that they lose the race if they do that.
The "voting democracy" stuff is horsecrap. That's what we were told in Bakersfield by the same people. Uh, except only ONE team who was racing the event voted for 1/8th, and the rest voted 1/4. Oh, those "other" trucks who were nameless voted by proxy who didn't attend we were told.
Believe me, if it would improve the odds of the TS truck winning to run 1/4 mile, that "poll" post would never have happened. Since the 1/8th is going to help his truck, guess what the track length will be?
Like I said, if you can't run 1320' at full power, (or 5 miles, or 100 miles), you need to adjust your racecar accordingly. You can blow up a TF car at half track also by turning it up, but they understand that they lose the race if they do that.
Also... 99% of our trucks are tuned/built for 1/4 mile. That's what drag racing is and always has been. You don't build a dragster for the 1/8th and hope to change a history of racing because you want an extra pass. If you cant hang in a "real" drag race then tough shit. This is an event, not test and tune. Keep your 1/8th mile crap on the trailer if you don't think its a real drag truck ready for a real race.....also, if you can tune your truck to make power in the 1/8th, you should have no problem tuning it for the 1/4.
Someone post this for me on CompD I dont wanna create a login for somewhere I will rarely visit :rofl:
Someone post this for me on CompD I dont wanna create a login for somewhere I will rarely visit :rofl:
How about they start running the 1/2 Hour of LeMans.... The Daytona 100..... or a just make it a 60' drag race.
I showed up at the track one night and it rained as I got there. I didn't remember when I left home it was some import something or other get together. Since the track was too wet, they decided to race with 4 people pushing cars to the 60' line. Maybe they could just do that at TS?
I showed up at the track one night and it rained as I got there. I didn't remember when I left home it was some import something or other get together. Since the track was too wet, they decided to race with 4 people pushing cars to the 60' line. Maybe they could just do that at TS?
Distance don't matter to me..................heck, I've driven 4 hours one way to race 200'...............so 660' ain't too bad.:baby:
...............so 660' ain't too bad.:baby:
you coming saturday gates open at 1200 race starts at 1300
Wife has meetings (she's important......I'm not) I'm babysitting.
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I hate the 1/8 mile crap, I will not waste my time going now, Since they closed that thread and not will vote at the track, Sucks for some to drive that far to to find out then and not have a few weeks to test and tune for the 1/8 if its going to be that.They should of had this figured out before hand.Then atleast some that are drive 12 to 16 hrs can say nope if its the 1/8 count me out i'm staying home and not wasting there time and fuel.
I think everyone knows what I think of 1/8 mile racing. I consider it like getting set up with a hot blind date only to find out it's your sister. After I read the classifications, I asked if we were running NADM rules since they were using what looked like their classifications. I was told no, that this was an Outlaw event and no racing organization was involved. I made the assumption we would race 1/4 mile since that is what they have done in the past.
All of a sudden this maybe 1/8 mile would be a better show since a lot of Prostock trucks break arguement comes up. Why is every other class at TS running 1/4 mile, but we are considering running 1/8 mile?
As has been stated earlier in this thread, and in my post on CompD if you can't run your truck multiple times at 1/4 mile, maybe you need to look at your tune and adjust it so you can. I'm beginning to think that politics and good old boy friendships will rule the day and that is sad. We will go and we will vote 1/4 mile. We are probably traveling about as far in this country as you can to Bowling Green not counting Alaska and Hawaii. I think that the decision should be made now so we all know what the rules are going to be, not after a debate and bogus vote on the eve of the event. It's almost a 5000 mile round trip for me, all that to kiss your sister?
After I read the classifications, I asked if we were running NADM rules since they were using what looked like their classifications. I was told no, that this was an Outlaw event and no racing organization was involved. I made the assumption we would race 1/4 mile since that is what they have done in the past.All of a sudden this maybe 1/8 mile would be a better show since a lot of Prostock trucks break arguement comes up. Why is every other class at TS running 1/4 mile, but we are considering running 1/8 mile?
As has been stated earlier in this thread, and in my post on CompD if you can't run your truck multiple times at 1/4 mile, maybe you need to look at your tune and adjust it so you can. I'm beginning to think that politics and good old boy friendships will rule the day and that is sad. We will go and we will vote 1/4 mile. We are probably traveling about as far in this country as you can to Bowling Green not counting Alaska and Hawaii. I think that the decision should be made now so we all know what the rules are going to be, not after a debate and bogus vote on the eve of the event. It's almost a 5000 mile round trip for me, all that to kiss your sister?
I think everyone knows what I think of 1/8 mile racing. I consider it like getting set up with a hot blind date only to find out it's your sister.
All of a sudden this maybe 1/8 mile would be a better show since a lot of Prostock trucks break arguement comes up. Why is every other class at TS running 1/4 mile, but we are considering running 1/8 mile?
As has been stated earlier in this thread, and in my post on CompD if you can't run your truck multiple times at 1/4 mile, maybe you need to look at your tune and adjust it so you can. I'm beginning to think that politics and good old boy friendships will rule the day and that is sad. We will go and we will vote 1/4 mile. We are probably traveling about as far in this country as you can to Bowling Green not counting Alaska and Hawaii. I think that the decision should be made now so we all know what the rules are going to be, not after a debate and bogus vote on the eve of the event. It's almost a 5000 mile round trip for me, all that to kiss your sister?
I agree Ken, Should atleast know ahead of time then you can say nope not come not worth my time or money to only run half of the race.
It doesn't seem right to not know what you're getting into ahead of time. Whatever they decide to do, they should announce it so the racers can have some time to prepare in the weeks leading up to the event. Being at a 1/4 mile track and past events, it would seem logical that it would be a 1/4 mile race, but the Dennis throws out this 1/8 mile BS. That isn't fair to anyone. I don't have a PS truck, so I don't know what goes into setting one up for 1/8 or 1/4. I just think a real drag race is a 1/4.
Not knowing what the rules will be before you arrive, is nonsense, BUT there are some legitimate reasons for running 1/8 mile over 1/4, at least from the track and sanctioning body's points of view.
In the case of Famoso in Bakersfield, their insurance requires them to put on extra emergency personnel and pay a higher daily premium if cars faster than a certain MPH will be running. This is based on 1/4 mile though, so they duck that rule by only allowing the faster cars to run 1/8 if they want to participate. This crap usually rears it's ugly head at private-rental test days and it's happened to me twice with my ProMod.
Second, in the tire-limited classes especially, the vast percentage of injury wrecks are occuring in the last 1/8 mile of racing. This is because of the speeds these cars are achieving and the amount of HP they are putting (or attempting to put) through a Drag Radial or 10.5 tire. Because of this, several sanctioning bodies have adjusted the rules over the last couple years to limit the Drag Radial classes to 1/8 mile, even while other classes at the same event compete in the full 1/4 mile.
I know this isn't the same as the issues faced at Bowling Green, but I just wanted to share my experiences with some of you that are anti-1/8 mile. It's not all BS and, love it or hate it, it's looking to be the wave of the future as cars get faster and society gets even more litigious.
In the case of Famoso in Bakersfield, their insurance requires them to put on extra emergency personnel and pay a higher daily premium if cars faster than a certain MPH will be running. This is based on 1/4 mile though, so they duck that rule by only allowing the faster cars to run 1/8 if they want to participate. This crap usually rears it's ugly head at private-rental test days and it's happened to me twice with my ProMod.
Second, in the tire-limited classes especially, the vast percentage of injury wrecks are occuring in the last 1/8 mile of racing. This is because of the speeds these cars are achieving and the amount of HP they are putting (or attempting to put) through a Drag Radial or 10.5 tire. Because of this, several sanctioning bodies have adjusted the rules over the last couple years to limit the Drag Radial classes to 1/8 mile, even while other classes at the same event compete in the full 1/4 mile.
I know this isn't the same as the issues faced at Bowling Green, but I just wanted to share my experiences with some of you that are anti-1/8 mile. It's not all BS and, love it or hate it, it's looking to be the wave of the future as cars get faster and society gets even more litigious.
I think everyone knows what I think of 1/8 mile racing. I consider it like getting set up with a hot blind date only to find out it's your sister.
you still said you kiss your ...... errr run the 1.8 mile :rofl:
I think everyone knows what I think of 1/8 mile racing. I consider it like getting set up with a hot blind date only to find out it's your sister.
All of a sudden this maybe 1/8 mile would be a better show since a lot of Prostock trucks break arguement comes up. Why is every other class at TS running 1/4 mile, but we are considering running 1/8 mile?
As has been stated earlier in this thread, and in my post on CompD if you can't run your truck multiple times at 1/4 mile, maybe you need to look at your tune and adjust it so you can. I'm beginning to think that politics and good old boy friendships will rule the day and that is sad. We will go and we will vote 1/4 mile. We are probably traveling about as far in this country as you can to Bowling Green not counting Alaska and Hawaii. I think that the decision should be made now so we all know what the rules are going to be, not after a debate and bogus vote on the eve of the event. It's almost a 5000 mile round trip for me, all that to kiss your sister?
At least there is a plus side ken , if pro street ends up only 1/8 ... you'll still get to run 1/4 in super street . that is if your still entering both classes ? But i am shure the payout for PS is higher .
Maybe you guys are starting to make the competition a little nervous :angel:
The insurance thing isn't even worth mentioning as there will be dragsters running way faster than us and for a full 1/4 mile.
Trent,
Super Street at TS is nothing like the Super Street class with NHRDA. Min weight is 3500 and max weight is 4500. We wont quite make that at 6000.
Trent,
Super Street at TS is nothing like the Super Street class with NHRDA. Min weight is 3500 and max weight is 4500. We wont quite make that at 6000.