LBZ: Mike l trans cooler the same as PPE Coolers??

Ne-max

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This made in China comments seem a little much unless you have proof the product is not up to standards. I can remember that in the 60's & 70's everything made in Japan was supposed to be bad. Now that is not the case. Don't forget most things, including your mobile phones, are made in China.


Here is the problem. Companies send a product over to China to be copied and mass produced. Witch the design is close but the quality of the metals is not up to par. Last a year or two and done. Mishimoto radiators are junk cause of this.
 

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Here is the problem. Companies send a product over to China to be copied and mass produced. Witch the design is close but the quality of the metals is not up to par. Last a year or two and done. Mishimoto radiators are junk cause of this.



Their radiators are made in New Castle, Delaware. I’ve bought a lot of their stuff and have had zero issues with splitting tanks or leaks on their silicone rubbers or my intercooler. The only complaint I really have for them is that they’re products usually require further mods to install that they don’t explain in depth much


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Their radiators are made in New Castle, Delaware. I’ve bought a lot of their stuff and have had zero issues with splitting tanks or leaks on their silicone rubbers or my intercooler. The only complaint I really have for them is that they’re products usually require further mods to install that they don’t explain in depth much


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They are designed there but made in China. The blue LMM with the front push bar in their literature is mine.
 

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If you look at these Coolers, the first two rows are useless, the welds around the fittings crack and the stock cooler works better. I had customers call me and complain about these. I had a chance to see one in person a while back and compared it to Mike's Setrab, night and day difference.

PPE so far ditched setrab for the six speeds, I don't know if they did so for the 5 speeds. But still use setrab products for advertising..
 

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Hmm thanks very good info right there,I wish Mike would have chimed in this thread but looks like I’m selling this and going with his

So I guess this would explain why I didn’t notice a difference over- stock

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What did you pay for this one? I may be interested.
X2 what James said, and I'm going to add that this isn't the first time I've read you soliciting others, whether buying or selling, in the tech areas. Please knock it off, take it to PMs.
 

Columbus450

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Thanks everybody for the i feedback....I I talked to Mike this morning sold mine on eBay,And will buy his and will be done with it once and for all


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X2 what James said, and I'm going to add that this isn't the first time I've read you soliciting others, whether buying or selling, in the tech areas. Please knock it off, take it to PMs.

Hmm thanks very good info right there,I wish Mike would have chimed in this thread but looks like I’m selling this and going with his

So I guess this would explain why I didn’t notice a difference over- stock . I was only asking as he did mention selling it. For some reason im having problems sending private messages on my cellphone is the reason for commenting on the thread as I perfer not to clutter up the posts if it works correctly. Sorry guys didn't mean to piss anyone off.
 

Columbus450

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If you look at these Coolers, the first two rows are useless, the welds around the fittings crack and the stock cooler works better. I had customers call me and complain about these. I had a chance to see one in person a while back and compared it to Mike's Setrab, night and day difference.

PPE so far ditched setrab for the six speeds, I don't know if they did so for the 5 speeds. But still use setrab products for advertising..



On this PPE cooler that is a negative on the first two rows being welded or blocked off I stuck a skinny zip tied and it goes tthrough and through
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But regardless I’m already shipping this one out and getting Mike’s can’t wait to see the difference.


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Columbus450

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Yes I do have a great update!!!!


After receiving Mike’s , I did a side-by-side comparison of both setrab & ppe coolers ,I noticed right away the orifices on the PPE cooler have up and down peaks Valley - Mountain -Valley Mountain -Valley -Mountain allowing the fluid to work harder to transition from one side to the other
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On mike l cooler His was flat -flush and smooth Cut straight vertically up-and-down the fluid did not have to work hard to transition to the other side

(I don’t think I have a picture but I hope you get what I’m saying)

Both coolers had the same amount of channels The PPE was not blocked it went through and through that was the only differences I noticed with the two comparing them besides the fact that Mike’s cooler was a million times better built quality wasn’t even comparable! I’m sure there was more internally that I could not see.

At the end I am very very happy I went with Mike’s because I noticed The quality of the metal was million times better also my temperature DID Drop 20° I never did see that with the PPE cooler it was like I was running the factory OEM one so glad I made the swap!!


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BLACKMAX1

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Awesome, thanks dude.

Yes I do have a great update!!!!


After receiving Mike’s , I did a side-by-side comparison of both setrab & ppe coolers ,I noticed right away the orifices on the PPE cooler have up and down peaks Valley - Mountain -Valley Mountain -Valley -Mountain allowing the fluid to work harder to transition from one side to the other
da7e6e306bb3f5b39edd50204ea074a7.jpg


On mike l cooler His was flat -flush and smooth Cut straight vertically up-and-down the fluid did not have to work hard to transition to the other side

(I don’t think I have a picture but I hope you get what I’m saying)

Both coolers had the same amount of channels The PPE was not blocked it went through and through that was the only differences I noticed with the two comparing them besides the fact that Mike’s cooler was a million times better built quality wasn’t even comparable! I’m sure there was more internally that I could not see.

At the end I am very very happy I went with Mike’s because I noticed The quality of the metal was million times better also my temperature DID Drop 20° I never did see that with the PPE cooler it was like I was running the factory OEM one so glad I made the swap!!


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dndj

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Another Mike L. cooler install

Thanks for the detailed info in this thread, made it an easy choice to go with Mike L's cooler. Just put it on my LB7 last night. Mike provides excellent written instructions and the fit/finish are perfect.
 

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