Will ATI Super Damper make for smoother idle?

[07keo02]

I know the super damper is really good for additional horsepower and all. My question is has anyone had experience with it helping for a smoother idle. I have Merchant Automotive Engine Mounts and poly transmission mount as well as a south bend clutch solid flywheel/clutch. My vibrations I have aren't too bad, but it does cause for some dash rattles, especially when its cold out and the truck isn't nice and warmed up. I have thought about the Fluid Damper but have heard bad things with the crank, if it could be pinned with the EPR kit I might consider it. So basically, does the ATI decrease vibrations well beyond the stock damper, even at idle?

 

[07keo02]

Bump

 

[hondarider552]

Stock one will if its balanced.

 

[x MadMAX DIESEL]

I wouldnt waste money on it. But idk really know. Doubt it would be much difference.

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[S Phinney]

It wouldn't make your vibration go away. Go back to stop motor mounts if you want the vibrations gone.
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[07keo02]

Eric's mounts really didn't affect it much. The south bend clutch alone had a bit of a buzz to it, even with stock mounts. The mounts from Merchant actually really stopped the shake and excessive movement. I read a bunch of dodge manual guys that used the fluidamper and said it made a noticeable improvement on quieting down their trucks with south bend clutches, but its not a good design for the duramax, so I was just wondering if the super damper was equally effective at further reducing vibrations. I did find my balancer pin bent a while ago and I fixed that with a new pin and used balancer but sometimes I wonder if it might have slipped a bit again.

 

[x MadMAX DIESEL]

Your Downpipe or anything like that rubbing the firewall??

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[07keo02]

I don't think so. Not much noise, just some rattles from the engine. One thing I was concerned with was a "pule" I felt in the shifter. Thought it might of been a bearing in the trans, but revved it up in neutral and felt the same thing. I drove my buddies cummins 6 speed with a stock clutch and it had that a bit too, just not as much. I think everything is normal, just thought that the ATI damper would make it feel even smoother.

 

[Pure Diesel]

I did find my balancer pin bent a while ago and I fixed that with a new pin and used balancer but sometimes I wonder if it might have slipped a bit again.

Might want to think about the pin again.

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/63...n-2001-2004-lb7/442198-crank-pin-sheared.html

 

[dirty_max]

i was always told that when you have a solid flywheel you need a fluidampr or ati so it wont vibrate. i put my fluidampr on at the same time i did my clutch and i never had a vibration

 

[dansdieselp]

It's common when going from a dual mass flywheel to solid one. We typically bump the idle rpm up a little and that seems to help smooth out the vibration.

 

[07keo02]

I know the fluid damper will help, but I'm not spending the money on the same slip fit design. I think the super damper might help too, I have ready threads on other vehicles where they had a much better idle with it installed. I am going to look at an Lbz motor tomorrow so that may change everything if I get it and do the swap.

 

[x MadMAX DIESEL]

I would raise the idle too. I would never put a fluid dampner on. They say for some reason you can't balance a motor with a fluid dampner on. So your balance it with the stock then install the other one. So I don't see how you could ever get it balanced out. So especially just throwing one on wouldn't do much in my eyes.

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[dirty_max]

I would raise the idle too. I would never put a fluid dampner on. They say for some reason you can't balance a motor with a fluid dampner on. So your balance it with the stock then install the other one. So I don't see how you could ever get it balanced out. So especially just throwing one on wouldn't do much in my eyes.

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they say this because the fluidampr is supposedly already balanced or some crap

 

[07keo02]

The only reason I really don't like the fluid damper is because the slip fit with the pin. I wonder if you could use the empire kit on one? Not sure if the center part is filled with their fluid or not.

 

[dirty_max]

why wouldnt you be able to use the empire kit on it?

 

[07keo02]

I don't know I was thinking of the fluid leaking?

 

[x MadMAX DIESEL]

There's actually fluid in them? No wonder you can't balance them. So they work like balance beads on tires i guess using centrifugal force

 

[07keo02]

yeah silicone fluid inside them

 

[dansdieselp]

Fluidamprs are fricken heavy. With ati we just put the hub in the bearing oven for a few minutes and they slip right on. Then bolt up the dampr.