If an engine like that only lasts minutes at WOT it should at least be 25% cheaper than new since I'm estimating that 25% of its minutes are used up already!
What does it cost to build a World Record Breaker Motor?
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If an engine like that only lasts minutes at WOT it should at least be 25% cheaper than new since I'm estimating that 25% of its minutes are used up already!
WOW Um ya just imagine dropping that 35k and heavens forbid something happened Or you had some buyers remorse and the restocking fees!
For that money Id want a complete teardown with certification! If you think about it PPE wouldn't resell a box of rods but yet they will sell a engine ,USED, without even a hesitation! No documentation ,NOTHING! For full on retail!
Basically we've all seen the customer services you'll get in addition! It is trailer trash pulling WORLD RECORDING HOLDING THO!
I grabbed my calculator, my last motor had 257 passes between 10.8 and 11.2. If I use 11 flat as an average, that's 47 minutes at wot. Add in some horsing around and getting tuning logs at best it's double that, probably less.
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I think 1k power can be done for a lot less also. This diesel stuff is off the hook!!! 35k will buy anyone a bad a$$ gas motor that will make 2k possible 2500 turn key. It wouldn't have any stock parts for that price also. It's just a matter of what someone wants and how quick they want it.
I think 1k power can be done for a lot less also. This diesel stuff is off the hook!!! 35k will buy anyone a bad a$$ gas motor that will make 2k possible 2500 turn key. It wouldn't have any stock parts for that price also. It's just a matter of what someone wants and how quick they want it.
What kind of Junk turbos and fueling are you going to get for 10k?:roflmao:
Just the two Garrett Ball bearing turbos used in this kit are $7000. This is not including the install kit, waste-gate, manifolds and up-pipes, coolant tank, inter-cooler and ++ :hello:
Ok let’s use the engine you listed as an example with retail pricing....
So.... Stage 2 engine $18,400 PLUS CORE
PPE Twin turbo package std Big kit $15,500.
This kit has a second waste-gate on it they are about $550.00 plus the fab work to install it, lets call it $700.00 total
So just right here we are at $34,600.
BUT WAIT! We still don't have any fuel to drive this beast, So.....
Dual Cp3 kit with second pump $2350.00
Custom Injectors/Tips (balanced, custom tips) $2500.00-$3000
Misc fittings, feed line kits, $100
Now we are at $39,800.
OPP's! Almost forgot the removal/install of all the parts on the engine (this engine is drop-in ready)
Custom down pipe (custom for each truck engine year) to exhaust (not hood stack like Dmitri's)
All fuel lines (Feeds, plug and Play) custom.
I am going to be very conservative on the labor (I was quoted 3.5-4 full days) as there is a lot of custom parts so this kit will drop in and these big kits usually do not keep the AC (not normally kept in a race app) This one does...
$1500-$2000 (it should be $2660+)
So I'm SURE i'm forgetting some stuff but this should get us close at $41,450. (Mackin, take you shoe’s off and use your toes if needed or just use a calculator)
This is not including the GOLD PLATING and World Record Status…. Like someone said be for that HAS to be worth 10K…….
Bingo!!! :thumb:
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With decent pricing and a good shop, Engine with forged pistons and the works with capable compounds, you should be in the 15-18k range for the package depending on the turbos you choose for it.
Still alot of money, and at a 1000rwhp your only going to see 10-15 minutes of use at that power level.
Please show me how you came up with these numbers?
So are SLOW twin turbo trucks.....
I think the turbo kit alone is 10g's. But why ask new price for something used is what i do not understand. YES it is the best of everything but it is still not new by any means so asking new prices like was stated doesn't make any sense
New over 15K.....
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Jess, Not around here.....
Plus core is the deal breaker
maybe you should call Guy and complain then....
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I have to disagree.... Sorry! I have seen engine setups very close to this making over 1500RWHP last a couple of seasons.:thumb:
WOW Um ya just imagine dropping that 35k and heavens forbid something happened Or you had some buyers remorse and the restocking fees!
Red crayon for you.... Ya Imagine if you bought a New/Used truck form GM and had buyers remorse for 50K... I wonder what GM would do? My guess NOTHING!
For that money Id want a complete teardown with certification! If you think about it PPE wouldn't resell a box of rods but yet they will sell a engine ,USED, without even a hesitation! No documentation ,NOTHING! For full on retail!
Not full retail and guess what? We know EXACTLY what has been done/not done to this engine, and how conservative the tuning was....
Basically we've all seen the customer services you'll get in addition! It is trailer trash pulling WORLD RECORDING HOLDING THO!
better then the trash that ALWAYS comes out of your mouth, Do you ever have anything USEFUL to add?
So your selling a 40-42,000 dollar motor for 35,000 used??? Thats what you have stated. Well lets use a truck for example here, if you went out and bought a brand new chevy silverado z71 1/2 ton for 40k and drove it 5k miles you WOULD not get 35k for it used. Race motors depreciate alot more than vehicles... Dan the motor is nice and has the top of the line parts but i would think 30k asking price would have been a little more reasonable. GLWS im sure some 18 year old kid will buy it and ask if your Hot+2 will make it MUCHO SMOKE
I think the turbo kit alone is 10g's. But why ask new price for something used is what i do not understand. YES it is the best of everything but it is still not new by any means so asking new prices like was stated doesn't make any sense
Trents ultimate race turbo kit is 8k and is advertised at 1200 rwhp
My only response to you in MY thread ,get out if you don't like it ,is DON'T THROW OUT INSULTS,GROW UP. Your a vendor you should be held to a higher standard!
I agree 100% but that was not what this engine was built for...
Just a heads up these large twin kit are capable of OVER 1500RWHP+ that is just under 2000K at the crank.
Sorry am I not entitled to MY OWN opinion?
I figured you needed help in the math dept from your post....:roflmao::thumb:
I think PPE'S prices are high there are better deals out there! Buyer beware! If your in the market!
Is GM still offering that take it home try it out you don't like it bring it back program on new vehicles? Remember that ? That was cool! :thumb:
So your selling a 40-42,000 dollar motor for 35,000 used??? Thats what you have stated. Well lets use a truck for example here, if you went out and bought a brand new chevy silverado z71 1/2 ton for 40k and drove it 5k miles you WOULD not get 35k for it used. Race motors depreciate alot more than vehicles... Dan the motor is nice and has the top of the line parts but i would think 30k asking price would have been a little more reasonable. GLWS im sure some 18 year old kid will buy it and ask if your Hot+2 will make it MUCHO SMOKE
We are open to REASONABLE OFFERS!
My post did not say Firm on the price...
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Cracked a piston in spring. Never thought about how little wot time we have on these motors. This was a very basic build. Rods, cut stock pistons, valve springs and headstuds
Is GM still offering that take it home try it out you don't like it bring it back program on new vehicles? Remember that ? That was cool! :thumb:
ya that was pretty cool..... does it apply to used vehicles also?