Twins for what

KEVINL

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Edit: Earlier = http://www.duramaxdiesels.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1120&highlight=Casper+Famoso

http://www.duramaxdiesels.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9013&highlight=casper+stock+injectors

10's with stock injectors, GT4202, no nitrous, 6420lb.

It had run 11.00 at high altitude even (LACR) with that setup.

I never knew you ran 10's with a 4202. I thought it was with a GT42 Mag.

Thats pretty damn good most people running those or S475's are in the 11's without nitrous
 

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No, we never ran into the 10's with the 42mag, we had other failures, like a Tcase and plumbing.

A lot of folk thought we were fibbing at the time, mostly about stock injectors, and a few about the bottle. But the first 10's we ran, there wasn't any nitrous parts within 100' of Casper unless the guy in the other lane was running it. When you run stock injectors and a big charger, there isn't much smoke.

4 years ago, it was fast, but then we started LSR racing, and haven't been back to the dragstrip. Hopefully we will back "home" this year.
 

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Other way around hoss. He's saying that theres no way that an S475/S366 (or the like) twin setup, could never flow more air than that same S475 as a single.
Reason being, the 475's flow path is bottlenecked by the S366.

how does your s472 tow id like more air twins are probably outta my price range. Just contimplating waiting another year to upgrade or do another single upgrade :D
 

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I thought alot of people do it so they can have big power but, still be able to tow without needing alot of rpm to do so. That was my goal anyway.

thats the main reason i went with twins. it was either re-gear the truck and put a bigger single on or buy twins. the fact that i run stock gears with my lift/tires and could have better than stock spool up completely sold me. Sure you can tow on a big single and a good few have shown that but with stock twins or even s366/s480, RPMs are not near as key as runnin say a s472 or 475 as a single. Twins require less driver finesse so to speak when towing to an equal sized single.

how does your s472 tow id like more air twins are probably outta my price range. Just contimplating waiting another year to upgrade or do another single upgrade :D

concidering he doesnt have a tow hitch, we may never know :D but i know his truck tows good behind mine :hehe:..............................well when my truck ran anyhow
 

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The S472 is what I am looking into if I don't go with the 464 right away. I don't do a lot of towing so that is not a problem. I weighed my options in regards to twins but I simply think that compounds aren't worth the compromise, as McRat was stating, especially compounding the stock charger.


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thats the main reason i went with twins. it was either re-gear the truck and put a bigger single on or buy twins. the fact that i run stock gears with my lift/tires and could have better than stock spool up completely sold me. Sure you can tow on a big single and a good few have shown that but with stock twins or even s366/s480, RPMs are not near as key as runnin say a s472 or 475 as a single. Twins require less driver finesse so to speak when towing to an equal sized single.



concidering he doesnt have a tow hitch, we may never know :D but i know his truck tows good behind mine :hehe:..............................well when my truck ran anyhow


lol well i might have a block for sale soon trents old block think im going to stay with a stock bore with rods AND not mahles and rods to much $$$$ not to mention ive been waiting like over 6 weeks for them still so it'll all be up for sale soon if ya want it :thumb: :hug:

and ya tiwns might be my only option i still tow my camper and skidsters and concrete forms, ect ect.... so i dont think ill see to much gain from a 64 to 66
 
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lol well i might have a block for sale soon trents old block think im going to stay with a stock bore with rods not mahles and rods to much $$$$ not to mention ive been waiting like over 6 weeks for them still so it'll all be up for sale soon if ya want it :thumb: :hug:

and ya tiwns might be my only option i still tow my camper and skidsters and concrete forms, ect ect.... so i dont think ill see to much gain from a 64 to 66

Well thank you for the offer bud! but the plan is to jsut build the block thats in the truck, unless there is damage i dont know about yet. Im nearing closer and closer to the day i can pull the motor and start on it, jsut gotta get qualified for a house loan this week and find me a house!
 

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lol well i might have a block for sale soon trents old block think im going to stay with a stock bore with rods not mahles and rods to much $$$$ not to mention ive been waiting like over 6 weeks for them still so it'll all be up for sale soon if ya want it :thumb: :hug:

and ya tiwns might be my only option i still tow my camper and skidsters and concrete forms, ect ect.... so i dont think ill see to much gain from a 64 to 66


What have you been waiting on for over 6 weeks? And what the heck is rods not mahles and rods to much :spit:
 

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Other way around hoss. He's saying that theres no way that an S475/S366 (or the like) twin setup, could never flow more air than that same S475 as a single.
Reason being, the 475's flow path is bottlenecked by the S366.

Sorry but that is not very accurate. Turbos in a compound setup only function at a fraction of their efficiency as compared to a single turbo.
I chose a single charger for the lack of torque in the lower RPM range as well as oil temp because my truck is my DD. My truck doesn't drive as nicely as a twinned truck, but thats the tradeoff.
 

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Sorry but that is not very accurate. Turbos in a compound setup only function at a fraction of their efficiency as compared to a single turbo.
I chose a single charger for the lack of torque in the lower RPM range as well as oil temp because my truck is my DD. My truck doesn't drive as nicely as a twinned truck, but thats the tradeoff.

Nor is your accurate either. If the turbos functioned at a fraction of their efficiency, wouldnt that mean that my stock turbo has since reduced its efficiency due to me adding the s475 infront of it? its correct that the s475 on my truck is not able to give my motor all the air it can due to the stock charger being in the way and creating a restriction, thus being inefficiant for the s475 but you have boosted the efficiancy of the stock turbo some by giving it a nice volume of pressurized air to feed off of.
 

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Nor is your accurate either. If the turbos functioned at a fraction of their efficiency, wouldnt that mean that my stock turbo has since reduced its efficiency due to me adding the s475 infront of it? its correct that the s475 on my truck is not able to give my motor all the air it can due to the stock charger being in the way and creating a restriction, thus being inefficiant for the s475 but you have boosted the efficiancy of the stock turbo some by giving it a nice volume of pressurized air to feed off of.

its because turbochargin multiplies air and the stock charger is no longer being fed air by atmospheric pressure. The compressed air being fed through the comp housing of the stock charger is not actually being created by the stock charger. And yes the efficiency of the stock charger goes down as it will not create as much boost as it could by itself.
 

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What have you been waiting on for over 6 weeks? And what the heck is rods not mahles and rods to much :spit:

K ill try again, I have been waiting for mahle to make my pistons .040" over ones for over 6 weeks so I canceled the order. Also rods (crowers Carrillos ect) and the mahles were more then I wanted to spend so I found a new block that didn't need bored out. That way I don't need the mahles just some rods? Therefore I'm selling my other block (Trent's old one) can you get that
 

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Well thank you for the offer bud! but the plan is to jsut build the block thats in the truck, unless there is damage i dont know about yet. Im nearing closer and closer to the day i can pull the motor and start on it, jsut gotta get qualified for a house loan this week and find me a house!

Cool man goodluck with the house and hope you just bent a rod nothing else is broke :hug::D
 

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All I want to know is if I will get the " whistle" if I put a 4202 as a single?
I will be happy with a 12 or 13 second pig:)
and just like the other turbo threads... I'm starting to get confused:roflmao:
 

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Why the heck can't we discuss any thing lately without getting are panty's in a wad?

I know this much, twins tow like no other. 10,000+ lbs, Fairbanks to Rexburg Id. via Seattle. I never had the Egt's over 1250*, 40-75 mph. Truck lumbered along at 12-20 #'s of boost.

Agreed for just drag racing if you can get a big single lit, it will run some fast numbers. But my truck isn't just a drag truck, It's a haul the family truck, pull a 27' foot enclosed sled trailer truck, race my buddies on the weekend truck, haul the wifes friggin rig 3,000 miles truck.

The "twins" (hope i'm not offending anybody) made my truck a do it all truck. It might not be the best in each class but it holds own.
 

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Why the heck can't we discuss any thing lately without getting are panty's in a wad?

I know this much, twins tow like no other. 10,000+ lbs, Fairbanks to Rexburg Id. via Seattle. I never had the Egt's over 1250*, 40-75 mph. Truck lumbered along at 12-20 #'s of boost.

Agreed for just drag racing if you can get a big single lit, it will run some fast numbers. But my truck isn't just a drag truck, It's a haul the family truck, pull a 27' foot enclosed sled trailer truck, race my buddies on the weekend truck, haul the wifes friggin rig 3,000 miles truck.

The "twins" (hope i'm not offending anybody) made my truck a do it all truck. It might not be the best in each class but it holds own.

Exactly thats why people do them most the time have a great all around truck