triple cp3's

[WICKED DIESELS]

core's are waived if you buy 15 + at a time....i guess it's all who you know shane....

BS, Bosch wants the cores to keep the out of rebuilders hands. They don't want to be competing aginst themselves on CP3's. That is the very reason when you buy a reman pump it is new, yes a reman is a brand new CP3 from Bosch. It carries a core charge for the above described reason. As for the 3.4 I just sold one, it was the enhanced version, meaning highest flowing. I know what it displaces, because I measured it.

 

[WICKED DIESELS]

Your right, this is based on knowledge from 2006 on your part. because thats when brett made 8XX HP on fuel with a single charger and tiny 3-flows.... at the time it WAS the highest HP out of a CR let alone on fuel.....after that he sold his truck and never made another atempt with that size pump.

Dominator diesel uses them
GAWN uses them
Jorge alfonso uses them

and a few others, and they all have records of there own useing the 3.4 from II

Since then........ II has been building and making custom CP3 's with stuff no one else has, with the 3.4 it been in R&D for the last few years, because they know the potential, but i have not used one so it's JMO

I do know that they have a 33% pump 45% pump , 85% pump ,and now a 130-50% pump soon to be released with the stock sized pump.

My point was not to get in a pissing match, but i really wondered why folks were considering useing 3 stock pumps, and i offered an alternative, which i think would work better. again JMO

Reality check in order, don't stand close to the fan something is getting ready to hit it.

 

[WICKED DIESELS]

On a side note Wade, I am the reason you were banned on CumminsForum, I have also alerted them to your Accelerator alias.:hug:

 

[WICKED DIESELS]

Any CP3 pump CANNOT flow more fuel than what it is capable of displacing, actually they all flow less due to designed in losses for lubrication purposes.

Here is the math, a completely stock CP3 will flow around 180LPH, it at 100% volumetric efficiency displaces 233LPH @3500rpm, 180 X 33% = 239.4, how can a pump with designed in losses for lubrication purposes, put out more fuel than it displaces...answer...IT CAN'T

180 x 45% = 261, even a further reach from reality.

180 x 85% = 333 out of a pump that displaces 280, their's is an increased displacement pump, which was discovered here from Pat's testing of my pump.

If these are OVER STOCK ratings then someone needs to have their adding machine recalibrated.

 

[Accelerator]

On a side note Wade, I am the reason you were banned on CumminsForum, I have also alerted them to your Accelerator alias.:hug:

Shane you asked for it, and baited me enough. I'll get banned for giving my opinion as normal, let it be known im not a suck boy like you!

I know you were the reason, and i dont care, that place was boring anyway, no fun unless i was there to get things going, and no shane your wrong im not back on there i could care less about that site, matter of fact brian got me back on there after the first time i was banned because they wanted more folks to visit, your a tool and me and several other know you well. you innovate nothing and steal lots of other idea's.

Since the math dont lie lets look at your record...

II has had about 30 + record setting CR trucks since 2005, mine included. not to mention all the 800HP trucks that have II stuff on them again since 05'

You have had 1 truck that used your pump to set any kind of record.

Show me a 1/4 mile record?
Show me a sled pulling record?
Show me a dyno record?

Show me something you have acomplished besides retail sales!


i am sick and tired of you trying to do everything you can to get me banned and start trouble, i know your jealous!!

Remember long before you were even into diesels I was part of pioneering modded CP3's, yea thats right ME, II, Floor-it and NADP all worked together on the FIRST modded cp3's, and bigger injectors and bad azz programming, among other things your just now catching up.....and i have took off for the last 3 years....
(thats OK the future holds great things.....2010 will be a jawdropper for sure!)

i got too busy with customer trucks and desided to put my innovations to work and set several records, some even stand today and there 3 years old!

for those of you who want to read about this from the beginning, go to TDR and do a search, there might even be some info on CF too, but im sure that most of that stuff is deleted by the time you read this.

You have slandered my name, and my company, what comes around go'es around, thats FACT!

Shane no one like's a one trick pony! Get over yourself.

Im done!

 

[Turbo Buick 6]

Remember long before you were even into diesels I was part of pioneering modded CP3's, yea thats right ME, II, Floor-it and NADP all worked together on the FIRST modded cp3's, and bigger injectors and bad azz programming, among other things your just now catching up.....and i have took off for the last 3 years....
(thats OK the future holds great things.....2010 will be a jawdropper for sure!)

Being a shop groupie (you know the annoying people that hang around a shop, pretend they know everything, ask a million questions about things someone as smart as them should already know, and make it next to imposable to get anything done) and scrounging for cheap or free parts doesn't make you part of pioneering.

 

[Turbo Buick 6]

Any CP3 pump CANNOT flow more fuel than what it is capable of displacing, actually they all flow less due to designed in losses for lubrication purposes.

Here is the math, a completely stock CP3 will flow around 180LPH, it at 100% volumetric efficiency displaces 233LPH @3500rpm, 180 X 33% = 239.4, how can a pump with designed in losses for lubrication purposes, put out more fuel than it displaces...answer...IT CAN'T

180 x 45% = 261, even a further reach from reality.

180 x 85% = 333 out of a pump that displaces 280, their's is an increased displacement pump, which was discovered here from Pat's testing of my pump.
If these are OVER STOCK ratings then someone needs to have their adding machine recalibrated.

This is a pretty good way to prove something.

Shane you asked for it, and baited me enough. I'll get banned for giving my opinion as normal, let it be known im not a suck boy like you!

I know you were the reason, and i dont care, that place was boring anyway, no fun unless i was there to get things going, and no shane your wrong im not back on there i could care less about that site, matter of fact brian got me back on there after the first time i was banned because they wanted more folks to visit, your a tool and me and several other know you well. you innovate nothing and steal lots of other idea's.

Since the math dont lie lets look at your record...

II has had about 30 + record setting CR trucks since 2005, mine included. not to mention all the 800HP trucks that have II stuff on them again since 05'

You have had 1 truck that used your pump to set any kind of record.

Show me a 1/4 mile record?
Show me a sled pulling record?
Show me a dyno record?
Show me something you have acomplished besides retail sales!


i am sick and tired of you trying to do everything you can to get me banned and start trouble, i know your jealous!!

Remember long before you were even into diesels I was part of pioneering modded CP3's, yea thats right ME, II, Floor-it and NADP all worked together on the FIRST modded cp3's, and bigger injectors and bad azz programming, among other things your just now catching up.....and i have took off for the last 3 years....
(thats OK the future holds great things.....2010 will be a jawdropper for sure!)

i got too busy with customer trucks and desided to put my innovations to work and set several records, some even stand today and there 3 years old!

for those of you who want to read about this from the beginning, go to TDR and do a search, there might even be some info on CF too, but im sure that most of that stuff is deleted by the time you read this.

You have slandered my name, and my company, what comes around go'es around, thats FACT!

Shane no one like's a one trick pony! Get over yourself.

Im done!

Lets see, that doesn't look like math on the flow of fuel pumps. It means nothing.

Wanna prove yourself...post some math on how these pumps are flowing over their displacement.

 

[Accelerator]

This is a pretty good way to prove something.





Lets see, that doesn't look like math on the flow of fuel pumps. It means nothing.

Wanna prove yourself...post some math on how these pumps are flowing over their displacement.

There stroked and have been for a long time! But shanes the innovator.....

 

[Turbo Buick 6]

There stroked and have been for a long time! But shanes the innovator.....

Innovator.....Don't know about that, but he seems to be the one willing to share tech info about pumps, such as bore, stroke, and efficiency (thats the kind of stuff that will earn my respect). Your idea of tech is "There stroked and have been for a long time!":spit: Well I have this motor in my car, it's balanced and blueprinted and bored....oh and it has headers and a k&n...it doesn't get and more tech than that.....at least in your world

 

[Idaho CTD]

Brett made those numbers on a Silver Bullet with SLC correction factor. I don't know of anyone that has matched or exceeded that feat uncorrected. SLC correction factor ranges from 10% to well over 25% depending on what the atmospheric conditions are. So the records your beating your chest over are BS. Besides the truck never ran as fast as 700hp trucks on the track.

Why don't you list the records you claim to own because I haven't heard of those? Hell list the records of II too since you seem to be the official record keeper and many of us have/had no clue they own 30+ records of some kind? You had a decent running truck when it was puffing on the bottle but everytime you tried to dyno it you got spanked handily. Why do you think it is that none of the II mighty trucks can make power on #2? Every single one of them has to use spray to get over 1000hp (uncorrected). It's been that way for years. Doesn't sound like a whole lot of a innovation going on over there at your favorite diesel shop. It does sound like they ought to be selling a lot of nitrous kits.

Jorge made 1300hp on the bottle. So has Richard Brown and Lloyd Mills among others. Gabby's truck is the only impressive truck on your list but it only runs mid 10's on fuel too. So I've got to ask why I'm suppose to be impressed by a cp3.4 or Industrials products? Lloyd and Richard did it with standard old dual cp3's.

 

[LBZ]

.......So I've got to ask why I'm suppose to be impressed by a cp3.4 or Industrials products? Lloyd and Richard did it with standard old dual cp3's.

:catfight:
No one is asking you to be impressed.

I look at the displacement numbers and this is my take: a single modded CP3.4 that flows 300% more than a stock 3.3 means two things-fewer moving parts and more displacement out of 1 pump. Also, I believe it would be more efficient.

I agree, that fitting a second CP3, or even a third may be easier for some to fit than a single CP3.4, but that is because nobody at this time is avidly promoting a CP3.4 set-up and therefore, there isn't much data to back them up. However just because there is no data, doesn't mean that the product is no good or is not practical.

I'm sure if someone was to come up with a good kit, that was affordable, more people would try it-and likely the max effort guys would be the largest crowd interested.

Wait, did I just agree with Wade!:thinking2:

 

[whitetrash21]

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[Rhall]

Remember long before you were even into diesels I was part of pioneering modded CP3's, yea thats right ME, II, Floor-it and NADP all worked together on the FIRST modded cp3's, and bigger injectors and bad azz programming, among other things your just now catching up.....and i have took off for the last 3 years....
(thats OK the future holds great things.....2010 will be a jawdropper for sure!)

You are so full of shit its not even funny. Why dont you take off a few more years, because no one wants to hear your bullshit, that right YOU.

 

[sweetdiesel]

The reality of it is cost. Because I can build my own stuff it is way more cost effective to add additional pumps. The idea of a single pump that would flow enough is a great idea but we aren't going to sit around and wait for it to become a reality. I do what I need to so we can get where we want to be. Just like your lift pump example....if adding a pump cures the problem what's wrong with it? I personally wouldn't do it if a larger pump was available but if it cures the problem it's a means to an end. Innovation is what drives any industry and there are more than 1 way to accomplish a goal. I honestly doubt a pump like that is going to be cost effective even compared to 3 pumps. You can buy new stockers for around 500.00. Besides the hardest part for a pump that size is going to be controlling the idle flow and keeping the rail pressure stock at idle. Can it be done? Sure but when?

Your right If i was you guys I would do the same

Still..... a guy can dream cant he:angel:

 

[Subman]

Thought this was a comedy thread? I guess a lot of it is. We haven't said anything about the triple CP's yet because we haven't needed them. When the rail pressure drops we'll hook'em up and see how they work. I can' imagine the hp used by and additional cp is near what is lost due to hot fuel and ho intake air, all issues at these hp levels.