It just amazes me these FNG's. This list has gotten away from what it was originally intended to be. I'm glad Josh has stepped up but it won't be long before the bitching will start again. Really any of the mods listed will make the truck not stock. A stock truck is how you drive it off the dealers lot. I still think the Top 50 list is ok because those trucks are far from stock the other list will always be disputed.
Just my 2 cents as I'm not going to try to get on it. I'll be happy with whatever times I run.
If you intend to get on this list and be a contender, some way, some how you made a modification to your truck. Something as simple as removing the spare tire. If you wanna gripe about having a tool box or fuel tank in your truck guess what, it's not a standard part of the truck when it rolled off of the assembly line. Your problem if you don't remove it.
I agree that some sort of new rules need to be applied and for MOST to agree on them. Not everyone will, so a majority approval will suffice.
As far as the 'Top 50' list, you said "trucks" in your statement. I think the top spots are a bit far from trucks but so be it.
Here's an attempt at the start to a base set of rules:
' Rules to Live By'
1. Most and foremost- the engine main setup must remain true to stock design. All original to design parts must be used. LB7 CP3 on a LB7 engine, ect.
2. Intake piping may be modified to your liking as we know this is only a minimal increase in actual power increase.Improper modding can also reduce power. Those that know, know this.
3. Exhaust system can be modded up to the level that it still remains to be legal in your state. Most everyone mods their exhaust whether they race or not.
4. Power improving tunes- the heart of the power. Go until she blows. It's your stock motor.
5. Due to the weak link being the stock Allison transmission, modding the Allison is permitted. Replacing the Allison with any other type of transmission is not allowed.
6. Street legal 'DOT' tires whether street style or street/strip are allowed.
Full drag tires are not. Tire size is your option.
7. Suspension- the suspension can be modified for control and stability. This is a safety issue. Suspension must also be streetable as a daily driver. I.E. - can you safely cross a set of railroad tracks?
Rollover and center of gravity of the vehicle must be kept to safe levels.
8. Weight limit. Controversy in the making. As long as the truck looks as it did from the factory on the outside, still has all of the outer body components attached, can pass a state level vehicle inspection (if applicable in your state), does not alter the integrity or safety of the vehicle, i.e. body flex or roll ( let's not get stupid here folks ). Most all states require a front bumper so one is required here. A roll pan in replacement to a rear bumper is optional.
9.All lighting that came on the vehicle must be operational for safety. The truck must be able to pass a vehicle inspection.
10. EGR Systems. Whether your state requires it or not is up to you. You have to pay the ticket if you get caught.
11. Here's another controversy. A/C System. Due to the fact that 'YES' you can order one of these fine trucks without a/c, it is your option to keep it or not.
12. Front and side factory glass is required for safety. Rear glass is optional.
13. Interior. As long as the seats , safety belts and instrument panel and gauges are intact and operational and DOT approved with the safety tags attached, the rest is on you. You can daily drive a truck with no carpet or trim panels. They are only cosmetic items and only account for a minimal amount of weight reduction. Only the drivers seat needs to be in the truck at the time of the event. Your time, your truck. Spend it wisely.
14. Fuel system alteration. Due to the fact that aftemarket fuel tanks, ( cells ) need to meet more than NHRA rules. They must meet DOT rules for crash safety ratings. If you want to drive your truck with a 1 gallon gas can, no problem. As long as it can meet and pass a state level vehicle inspection. Fuel pumps are allowed. Fuel hoses must be properly secured and protected from abrasion and heat.
All models and styles are eligible. Trucks or vans. All must be able to meet the safety requirements and be able
As far as any alterations to the vehicle are concerned, if you pay attention to the rules, the main concept is to be able to pass a state level inspection. This still makes the vehicle a daily driven vehicle if need be. We cannot state that someone must drive their truck every day. We can only state that it be possible that it can do so. If you want to pull your interior apart that's up to you.
There is no stated weight included. Due to the difference in models, this is a limitation that is hard to figure. A crew cab truck is in no way going to be able to make a weight reduction to 5500-6000 lbs. A minimal weight can be set for the regular cab and extended cab models. Weight with driver can be no less than 5600 lbs. At this weight and making 550 hp, using the calculator on this forum site, you can do the following:
Your estimated ET is: 11.69
Your estimated MPH is: 114.82
With this in mind, the current record for the number 1 spot at 11.80 is able to be broken. Only atmospheric conditions or other external conditions will change this. traction, track condition, ect.
The idea and principal of this challenge is to give yourself a goal in improving the power and performance of your truck. To learn the ins and outs of the Duramax diesel motor and the strong and weak points of the Allison transmission. It is not in hopes of someone destroying their beloved engine or wrecking their truck. WHO CAN FIND THE SECRET INGREDIENT for the hidden power these motors can make?
I won't be counting the van because almost everyone thinks the list should be streetable trucks, and the van is most definitely not streetable. Charles, can you post your full MPH so I can list it out to 2 decimal places. Thanks.
