Tire combination
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i can tell you that the Mickey ATZ's bite hard but then again having a 33-15.50R18 makes a difference.we run 35PSI in the rears and 25PSI up front for pulls and so far we have little tire spin and the EFILive tune we run still isn't as much HP as you should have with those tires.
Dmaximizer, not sure what your point is with the thread or video. He tried 4th gear without the power to do it correctly.
However, I have an itchin' feelin' what the issue is. It's not the brand of tire. I'll let you scratch your heads on it for a while
However, I have an itchin' feelin' what the issue is. It's not the brand of tire. I'll let you scratch your heads on it for a while
been think about running the 33x15.5 375/55/16 ATZ on mine as a dedicated on a 2wd setup or stepping up to a 35X15.50
the problem with 33 is tcc locked its @ 30mph is 2,100rpm 35 si 1900 wiht 3.73 gears droping to 4.10 would increase a 150rpms both tire setups
btw i have no low range gear
Dmaximizer, not sure what your point is with the thread or video. He tried 4th gear without the power to do it correctly.
However, I have an itchin' feelin' what the issue is. It's not the brand of tire. I'll let you scratch your heads on it for a while
Well that's fine, but we run 4th without as much hp as we were on a stock turbo. It was apples to oranges comparison I know. He had a 2.6 charger and we were on stock turbo with smaller BFG tires. That truck actually pulled against us a lot. He tried rapping it out in 3rd more than once but always ending up say he should have went to 4th. :baby:
I guess alot depends on the hp you run, but that was the main reason I wasn't impressed. We beat a lot of trucks running a lot more hp than us. Just ask Eric Merchant, or Jeff Toman. How many hp were those trucks? Then again it doesn't matter.
Well that's fine, but we run 4th without as much hp as we were on a stock turbo. It was apples to oranges comparison I know. He had a 2.6 charger and we were on stock turbo with smaller BFG tires. That truck actually pulled against us a lot. He tried rapping it out in 3rd more than once but always ending up say he should have went to 4th. :baby:
I guess alot depends on the hp you run, but that was the main reason I wasn't impressed. We beat a lot of trucks running a lot more hp than us. Just ask Eric Merchant, or Jeff Toman. How many hp were those trucks? Then again it doesn't matter.
Hey dillnut u forgot to tell everyone that doug has a cheater hitch.... Makes a difference
I ran 33sts, with a 4088 and twin cp3's, probably 625-650hp estimate, i never had the power for 4th, but ran up on the rev limiter quite a bit in 3rd, there was a few track where these tires killed the competition, other trucks were running some kind of mud terrain or all terrain, but i never messed with pressure much, around 50 in the rear and 25 in the front, if i would have messed with my set up some, i probably could have done better.
Rob
Rob
Well that's fine, but we run 4th without as much hp as we were on a stock turbo. It was apples to oranges comparison I know. He had a 2.6 charger and we were on stock turbo with smaller BFG tires. That truck actually pulled against us a lot. He tried rapping it out in 3rd more than once but always ending up say he should have went to 4th. :baby:
I guess alot depends on the hp you run, but that was the main reason I wasn't impressed. We beat a lot of trucks running a lot more hp than us. Just ask Eric Merchant, or Jeff Toman. How many hp were those trucks? Then again it doesn't matter.
You run 4th on less HP than a stock turbo? The only way that makes sense is if you've got a silly light sled, or you run 400' full pulls. Come on, man! No one else can pull that trick off. Everyone here knows Dale Bennett, he makes 50+ hooks a year all over the place, and he's held 4th gear but a fraction of the time, and he's got more snot than 550 hp (limit of stock turbo and one CP3). I can't hold it all the time with a fair shot more power than that even.
I'd say until you've tested STSes on your own truck, maybe you should go easy on what you recommend others should do. Basing your opinion on what some other guys screws up is hardly a way to make a good call.
He even mentioned in the one thread that he wouldn't drop the rears to less than 45 psi. What's that tell you? He's running off of theory/notion and not actual practice. Not very smart. Kinda like that old phrase "some people's main function in life is to serve as a warning to others."
So hey, I'm not gonna turn this into a pissing match. If you want to know about STSes, talk to me. If you want to run BFGs you will have to find someone else who likes 'em way more than me.
i agree 4th gear is next to impossible,we ran 4th once but then again they were setup for small block street trucks..lets put it this way they have never seen a sled go up a 3% grade at the end of the track,talk about a light sled.
how many ponies are Dale and Pat pushin?i need to call Matt and see about buying a LLY tune
how many ponies are Dale and Pat pushin?i need to call Matt and see about buying a LLY tune
I would not hesitate to. If you are looking for a good tune for an LLY, you will be hard pressed to find one that will outperform PowerMax's tune.
I hope, and think his sentence structure is a little screwy and what he is attempting to say is that they have ran 4th gear with less horsepower than who he is comparing to and that they have less horsepower than that person because they are running a stock charger whereas the other person must be running an aftermarket one.
If he IS trying to say they were running 4th gear with their stock charger and are now running an aftermarket charger and lost horsepower and can no longer get 4th, then I don't know. Only explaination for that is rearend gearing or going from VVT to fixed vane and not understanding one is much more capable of lugging than the other - hence the need for a rethinking of pulling strategy/setup.
I DO know a guy that ran 4th gear with a stock-charger LBZ and STS tires VERY effectively!!! You guess why he was able to do that. And no, there were no drugs or cheating done with the truck.
C-ya
Re-gear and/or tires pumped up fairly hard?
Light & long sled?
Every other truck was a Ford? :joker:
A couple of your answers are correct.
More of this little riddle...
I live in Central KY. Competition, or lack of, is NOT the reason. Full pull is most always 300' sometimes alittle longer, like 315-320 then there were pull offs. Old Iron Sides mean anything to you?
More of this little riddle...
I live in Central KY. Competition, or lack of, is NOT the reason. Full pull is most always 300' sometimes alittle longer, like 315-320 then there were pull offs. Old Iron Sides mean anything to you?
How is his moved forward hitch any different than yours?:baby:
Unless you want to tell me how his hitch is a cheater hitch when his is a beefed up stocker. :rofl:
I guess if he has a cheater, you can mock it and try to beat him with your new motor and turbo. Funny thing is you couldn't hook the hp you had last year.
Oh ya, I forgot.....according to you, he ran a cheater LB7 IHI turbo too. You wouldn't know what to do with that truck if it had a cheater turbo on it.
Yes, that is what I ment, sorry.
I didn't say the tire sizes were the same either. He used what worked and BFG's worked. He now has some sucessfull pulls on truxs's. Those last tracks were idealistic compared to earlier in the year.
How is his moved forward hitch any different than yours?:baby:
Unless you want to tell me how his hitch is a cheater hitch when his is a beefed up stocker. :rofl:
I guess if he has a cheater, you can mock it and try to beat him with your new motor and turbo. Funny thing is you couldn't hook the hp you had last year.
Oh ya, I forgot.....according to you, he ran a cheater LB7 IHI turbo too. You wouldn't know what to do with that truck if it had a cheater turbo on it.
Yes, that is what I ment, sorry.
I didn't say the tire sizes were the same either. He used what worked and BFG's worked. He now has some sucessfull pulls on truxs's. Those last tracks were idealistic compared to earlier in the year.
Any track can be idealistic for sts's if you know how to set them up properly. Imo the more hp you have, the more tire your gonna need, bfg's worked good when everyone one was 500-600hp, but as power has increased, times have changed, bfgs are a thing of the past for big hp trucks. Now imo, dually's can still have good luck with bfgs, due to the 2 extra tires in the rear.
Old Iron Sides mean anything to you?
Yeah, I think I've been on it 2 maybe 3 times.
It didn't feel like a super-light sled, but then again, at the time I didn't (for lack of experience) try to get a run on it off the line.
I did learn last year that there are some sleds that you need to take advantage of in that manner, or you're a dead duck. Think like a drag racer. Do whatcha need to by 75 ft and you're off to the races!
Remember though this was still WS/2.6 class that we pulled in and last year there wasn't a dual CP3 and barely anyone knew anything about a modded CP3.
What kind of hp do you think it will take to be competitive in a 2.6 class this year with the dual fueler rule?
What kind of hp do you think it will take to be competitive in a 2.6 class this year with the dual fueler rule?
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If you want to win, better be 650-700 rwhp or better IF we're talking unlimited compressor exducer 2.6" turbos. If you've got limits on the wheel diameter, then reduce the HP slightly.
Either way you will need much more than a stock CP3.