This is how you weld

Big Block 88

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its like he was scared of it. ive never seen a MIG with recoil hahaha

I used to love it when we get knewbies in the shop, we had Miller 302 and 42? units with the hangin bugs (jibs) we would wait tell they flipped there helmet down and go crank there wire speed, or max there amps, and watch them urn it into a torch. Mmmm... good times
 

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holy crap ,,,,, mental note to self dont show pics of my welds on here lmao

You and me both....

So it was your vid?:D

J/K but if you post pics of crappy welds I will find you and hunt you down, and force you to learn to weld better:rofl:

Start driving...I'll find a pic of my tack welding if you're serious....:rofl::rofl::rofl:

Honestly, I am flabberghasted by people who can weld. I think its an art form. The guy who did my downpipe sure is an artist.
 
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Big Block 88

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I go up to Grand Rapids Michigan to see the family all the time when I am home, we can work somethin out. I'll give you some lessons if I can drive your truck a bit:hug:
 

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I am gonna use all your barrowed time:rofl:. Welding is an Art for sure, but anyone can be taught the proper ways to do it. I was taught by a very cool old guy, knew it all and never would gloat. If you messed up he would mak you fix it, and would show you the easiest way, the quickest way, the best way, and his way. It's all about penetration though, no matter the position, :)happy2:isn't it always?) but you just need a steady arm and alot patience. I like to teach through hard knocks. I'll bring some schedule 40 2" inch pipe Galvanized. That is the most fun you can have.:D
 

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I think hes freakin serious......:scare:


I better get BBT ready for this....anyone got a set of rods lying around? :rofl:
 
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TheBac

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How about waiting until you swap in the Cummins??? :rofl: Better mileage!
 
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That is the first project for the new shop when I get home. The 454 has treated me well and my dad even better, over 300K and still runnin perfect. One bad fuel pump and one u-joint is doin pretty good for 21 years of service in our family.

All I gotta do is find a cheap Cummins
 

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.... galvanized. I don't know how much fun you'll be having with zinc chills later that night. But if you decided to do it, apparently drinking milk is an old welders way of getting rid of zinc chills. I hear it supposed to help get the toxins out of your system, I think its BS though.

And what does "crystallized" a weld mean? When you quench a weld with water its possible that you could end up with a martensitic structure which is very hard and brittle. Its also possible that you can end up with bainite, which is generally stronger (UTS) than a normalized or annealed steel and also has excellent impact properties. All depends on how you quench it and in what. (This is assuming we are talking mild carbon steel).

Also, its generally dictated in the WPS what the welding technique will be. You call it "stitching", the technical term in the codes is "weave". Stitching generally refers to performing stitch welds where for example you would have 6" of weld along a seam alternating with 6" of no weld.

Technique (weave or stringer) is an essential variable on the WPS and its not the welders decision whether he wants to work the puddle or not. And if they do, its very easy to see and I'll make em cut it out and do it all over again!:)
 

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I've had Galv sickness (zinc poisoning) 3 times, not fun. All the Milk does it help your stomach and chills. Zinc poisoning is cumilitive, you will never get it out of your system. That was also sarcasm on my having fun with galv. welding. Done alot of it, not fun
 

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Haha, I figured it was sarcasm. Anyone that knows about heavy metal poisoning knows its rough as $%^. I wonder how those dudes that work in foundry's do it? There are some rank ones out there.
 

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Sorry Crystalizied is embretalment of the steal. if you quench in cold water tell it is cold to the touch then you have "crystalized the weld" meaning if you break the weld apart it will look like crystals inside. If you quench in oil you can temper it. There are a number of differnet way to quench a weld for different desired effects. But this ass clown was cold splashing, quenching in water
 

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Haha ass clown!

Ohyes I see what you were saying. I've never heard that terminology before. That "crystalized" texture is typical of most brittle fractures, whether its a weld or not or even quenched or not.

I know all about heat treating, or atleast I hope I know a thing or two. I spent 2 years in college studying and performing heat treatments, welding, welding metallurgy and general metallurgy.
 

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wow all i can say is wow it looks very familiar.

I get called in to teach the metals class at our local high school how to weld. The shop teacher there is an ex WWF wrestler and doesnt know the first thing about it.

Problem is 90% of the kids could care less about learning it. And the 10% who want to are so bad at it but think they are so good at it that I dont even want to come back the next time. THey wont take any help, and they dont like it when you point out the bad things of every single bead they run.


And now I have a brilliant idea. Im off to make my own video tomorrow that will top this kids. :D
 

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I am gonna use all your barrowed time:rofl:. Welding is an Art for sure, but anyone can be taught the proper ways to do it. I was taught by a very cool old guy, knew it all and never would gloat. If you messed up he would mak you fix it, and would show you the easiest way, the quickest way, the best way, and his way. It's all about penetration though, no matter the position, :)happy2:isn't it always?) but you just need a steady arm and alot patience. I like to teach through hard knocks. I'll bring some schedule 40 2" inch pipe Galvanized. That is the most fun you can have.:D

I was taught by a machinist/fabricator.

Most of my teaching was done when i was building 30 gates for our farm.

He made me set up a jig on his $50,000 table. Its a slick setup thats precise to within .001" if used properly. And if i had anything on the gates off by more than 1/16" i had to redo it. Hes very fussy. I spent 3 straight days in 90* weather in full safety equipment. Another thing he is fussy about. I was all gung ho about becoming a welder and after those 3 days i said no way. I love doing it but im not doing it every day.

Out of the hundreds of beads he looked at i got two comments. And they were on my vertical welds. The rest all had something that wasnt right. But it was good in the end, taught me how to run a good bead that looks nice and penetrates well. Also taught me setup and how to "strategically" weld to keep everything true and minimize warpage.

I was also taught TIG welding by him too, took me a little longer to get good with TIG on aluminum though.

I was taught the skills of speed production fabrication by my uncle who builds railings, staircases, spiral staircases and such for a large structural steel company. At that place its about being precise too, but how they get there is different. They are all about speed, so if the railing isnt true there is always the torch. Again, working with him was another time i decided i didnt want to be a welder when i learned he burns through a 60lb spool in a days time.

Anybody has to potential to make good welds. Some learn faster than others. And then there is some who just never can do it like my dad. But if you understant whats going on, why its going on and what exactly you are doing and why, its a lot easier.

I got Zinc chills two summers ago when i spent 2 straight days welding galvanized pipe. It wasnt fun. Throat was pretty tight too. I didnt know about the milk thing. Ill have to remember that next time.
 

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Is it going to start with giving your work piece a nice coat of 10w30 before you start welding???

Yes to help remove the rust:D. Although i prefer using 80w90 because it "sticks" to the metal. And if you coat the metal with it prior to welding you dont need sheilding gas.

It also involves a Millermatic 252, available at your local hardware store and costco, walmart and sams club.

Ill also explain how its best to weld with cutoff sleeves to work on your tan.