the gym, who goes, what suplements.

[turbhoe]

Yea man thats the way to do it. People get sold on $50 bottles of supplements just because of the marketing campaign. I used to also. Not gonna lie. Then I went to school for kines. And became more educated on the subject of sports med. And realized that wasn't the best route. Many of the products out there claim certain gains. Well you may get those gains, but could have gotten the same gains if you would have just did research and figured out the active ingredients and took just those ie.. 17-hd (just an example) the bottle is about $50 and claims huge gains in test. Well, that gain is from the tribulus testerus (I think that's spelled right) you can buy just the tribulus and get the exact same gains. But will coat 50% less.

As far as proteins go... When I was on a cutting cycle, I always used nitro tech. It's really low in fat and pretty low on carbs. I was eating a HUGE amount of protein every day. I found nitro tech to be a nice bridge between My 7 daily meals. Just because it was low in everything else other than protein.
On mass cycles, I'd just use weight gainers.

I got really into lifting on my first tour to Iraq. I had a very strict diet while I was there. I did a mass cycle for the first 4 months. Went from 210-255 with 13% BMI. then leaned down for the last 4 months (just for the girls back home ) and cut down to 240.
So I think you will be able to get back to were you want pretty quickly. I would wear a support belt for that hernia though. Just to be safe.

You say you can't have a clean diet were your going... Were you going to? Not jail right? Hahahahaha jk

Hahaha. Nope not jail. But the galley isn't open all the time like some of the desert places are. Can't say exactly where I'm going. When I was lifting before I done a lot of research and found most of the "vitamins" I could just buy at Walmart. Lol. They have tons of stuff just seperatly instead of big fillers.

What kind of belt is this you speak of? I have a lift belt thats all. Also what can a person eat besides wheat? I have to eat patato bread.

 

[02bigstrokin]

I have some good supplements but they aren't exactly legal. Lol

 

[turbhoe]

Yes. Casien for night time. While you sleep, your fasting. When you fast... Your body goes catabolic (not good) casien reduces this. It's a slow acting protein. Usually takes about 7-8 hours to digest a 20g serving. Thus keeping you anabolic (good thing) while you sleep.
Some body builders even go as far as waking up half way through the night to eat a meal. Just so their body won't start breaking down. Not sure if they still do this, as it's more of an old timers thing... But I'm sure some do.

I knew a guy that had boiled eggs ready to go for midnight snacks. Lol the muscle milk with milk was good for me. I would just be getting hungry when I woke up. But I drank it late and woke up early.

 

[turbhoe]

I have some good supplements but they aren't exactly legal. Lol

Yeah about those. Lmao.

 

[c55asleep]

Try Razor for your pre-workout. Works really well. As for casein protein muscle farm makes a good one that I drink before bedtime. Man I feel like a midget at 5'7 and 210 around you guys lol.

 

[BUST'EM 504]

Hard work and deca-cation

 

[e02duramax]

Preworkout take muscle pharm assault
Protein gaspari myofusion best taste of any protein I think and reasonable price
Multi v I'm trying out orange triad and also take fish oil with every meal

 

[turbhoe]

My goal for the next 7 months is to hit 400 on bench and of course what ever I can get along with that for arms and shoulders and ........ Weather this is achievable I'm not sure. But if I don't set the bar high I won't push to get it done. I'm behind most the guys I'll be going with. But that's ok. I'm not looking to be the biggest guy in the gym but those amounts fit my frame. I'm tall and wide so slinky slanky makes me look funny. Words from my wife's mouth. Hahaha.

 

[PAT]

Hard work and deca-cation

LMAO!! And huge cramps. At least with me.

 

[PAT]

Hahaha. Nope not jail. But the galley isn't open all the time like some of the desert places are. Can't say exactly where I'm going. When I was lifting before I done a lot of research and found most of the "vitamins" I could just buy at Walmart. Lol. They have tons of stuff just seperatly instead of big fillers.

What kind of belt is this you speak of? I have a lift belt thats all. Also what can a person eat besides wheat? I have to eat patato bread.

A lift belt is fine. Anything that adds pressure to your mid section. That way it will help against hernia.

 

[MACKIN]

I watch the hot ass chicks doing belly dancing on TV and eating cheese and prosciutto for protein and Keebler Town House crackers with Diet Coke does that count? :roflmao:

Them'dar chicks are smoking hot!

 

[turbhoe]

Try Razor for your pre-workout. Works really well. As for casein protein muscle farm makes a good one that I drink before bedtime. Man I feel like a midget at 5'7 and 210 around you guys lol.

I've never heard of either of those. I'll lookem up though. Shorter guys can get it done too. We had one guy about your height maybe shorter. After about six months his uniform didn't fit anymore. He actually put on his shirt one day and broke his buttons. Hahaha. It was funny. He had to go to the NEX and get a new uniform that day.

 

[turbhoe]

Preworkout take muscle pharm assault
Protein gaspari myofusion best taste of any protein I think and reasonable price
Multi v I'm trying out orange triad and also take fish oil with every meal

Try the osteobiflex stuff. It has fish oil and shrimp oil and all kinds of stuff. It worked WAY better than fish oil for me. With NO fish burps.

 

[turbhoe]

I watch the hot ass chicks doing belly dancing on TV and eating cheese and prosciutto for protein and Keebler Town House crackers with Diet Coke does that count? :roflmao:

Them'dar chicks are smoking hot!

Sounds good minus the diet coke. Drink regular coke to keep from sugar cravings caused by diet. Sounds like me right now. Hahaha

 

[PAT]

Hahaha. Nope not jail. But the galley isn't open all the time like some of the desert places are. Can't say exactly where I'm going. When I was lifting before I done a lot of research and found most of the "vitamins" I could just buy at Walmart. Lol. They have tons of stuff just seperatly instead of big fillers.

What kind of belt is this you speak of? I have a lift belt thats all. Also what can a person eat besides wheat? I have to eat patato bread.

Well you don't have to have wheat. It's just a good form of complex carbs. (the good ones) but you can get complex carbs from other things such as potatoes, beans and nuts.
Did a quick google for wheat subs.
Barley, corn, millet, oats, rice, rye, sorghum, tef and wild rice are all in the same cereal grain family as is wheat. All flours ground from cereal grains may be used as a wheat substitute. Commonly available are barley, buckwheat, corn, rice and rye flour.

 

[PAT]

Sounds good minus the diet coke. Drink regular coke to keep from sugar cravings caused by diet. Sounds like me right now. Hahaha

You could eat fruit to get away from sugar cravings

I know I know... Kill joy lol

 

[c55asleep]

I've never heard of either of those. I'll lookem up though. Shorter guys can get it done too. We had one guy about your height maybe shorter. After about six months his uniform didn't fit anymore. He actually put on his shirt one day and broke his buttons. Hahaha. It was funny. He had to go to the NEX and get a new uniform that day.

Lol that's crazy. That exact names are (I spelled it wrong the first time) muscle pharm combat and all nutrition Razor 8. Razor gives me enough strength to do my workout and then some cardio.

 

[PAT]

I've never heard of either of those. I'll lookem up though. Shorter guys can get it done too. We had one guy about your height maybe shorter. After about six months his uniform didn't fit anymore. He actually put on his shirt one day and broke his buttons. Hahaha. It was funny. He had to go to the NEX and get a new uniform that day.

LMAO... my blouse didn't fit after my tour in Iraq haha sleeves came up about 4" from my wrist. And I couldn't cross my arms in a hugging motion. Everyone made fun of me for it

 

[BUST'EM 504]

LMAO!! And huge cramps. At least with me.

Got those too it's way easier with drugs lol

 

[DMAXchris]

I use a combination of Optimum Nutrition Natural ProComplex & One World Whey on workout days. I add Powerlabs Creatine to every shake and take Now Sports Arginine super stack before going to the gym. When I want to add weight I take Optimum Nutrition Serious Mass with no sugar added. I don't go to get big, just stay strong for ice hockey. I'm only 150-155 but I can bench 225.