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05_LLY

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Mini spool fits in the g80 carrier, itsfairly easy to install as well, held a full season in our 850ish hp 2.6 truck, even with duals on the rear for a hand full of pulls! We are upgrading to tonys 38spline setup for next year!!
 

Tony Burkhard

Allseason Diesel Per.
all very good points and I don't think anyone has ever questioned the quality of the products you sell, or your customer service, or your internet presence, all of which are top notch. If I was limited to a stock rear and had the horsepower, your spool and axles would be going into my truck. A fellow puller has your setup and it has been bulletproof.

Does the mini spool install in place of the g80? How hard is it to install one? I would be having a shop install this and a gear change at the same time. I really liked the simplicity of a full spool just not the price.
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Schwinn68

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Jan 9, 2008
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I hear ya. I spent a ton of time last year putting on stuff and taking it off into order to pull. And had a few break downs too. It would be nice to just have a trailer queen to get it setup and leave it all pulling season. Did they change the rules for what rearend you can run in altered this next year?


yes, the gasser guys wanted the open rear end and no suspension travel. The goal is to just get a truck out there. It might even have to be a truck with a gas engine in it for this year as they are cheap and plentiful but I'm hoping to find a cheap duramax to put my parts I've already bought on. I can spend my time getting the chassis set up and add real power the following year.

I just want to pull.
 

Schwinn68

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Jan 9, 2008
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Mini spool fits in the g80 carrier, itsfairly easy to install as well, held a full season in our 850ish hp 2.6 truck, even with duals on the rear for a hand full of pulls! We are upgrading to tonys 38spline setup for next year!!

thank you for this great information! This is why I like this site so much. You just answered all my questions
 

Tony Burkhard

Allseason Diesel Per.
Ive never broke Yukons 4340 axles, just the lower grade ones, ive twisted the 4340, but they will twist to a point, and still hold up. Klikkel axles will twist too. But i will say i still like the dual spline set up better. Also, Yukons kit looks nothing like the ones you sell Tony, im not sure what could have been copied unless he cut them open and took a material sample.
Material testing can be done without cutting them apart. Yukon kits look differant because they cheapened them up and the price reflects that.
 

duramaxsandwich

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ben i ran a welded g80 with stock axles in my truck at 7500lb that first year, they didnt break until it hopped. the moser axles and welded stock g80 carrier never failed.

if you're running a dmax i would stick with the 11.5 if you're running a 1ton trans/t-case, when i had the 106, after i broke my 4.88 r/p, the 5.29 r/p just didnt give me a fast enough final, even with the 35's.

i have a bunch of stuff lying around here, if u need anything give me a call. good luck, its addicting! haha
 

05smoker

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That was the only failure and there was a ring and pinion failure before he bought the truck. Does that make what i have junk?:hmm:

Theres alot more big trucks out there using my axles with zero failures.

Looks to me like he was just trying to clarify as I heard the same story. Still a great track record.
 

Rhall

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That was the only failure and there was a ring and pinion failure before he bought the truck. Does that make what i have junk?:hmm:

Theres alot more big trucks out there using my axles with zero failures.

No i was asking. Is that a hard concept for you?
 

Rhall

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I beleive if anybody questioned quality it was you with yukon. Yet i have had 0 failures with their good axles. Wakeman also runs them, so they are obviously not junk either. Like i said, i like steves design better, but for the price, ill buy the proformance set up.
 

Tony Burkhard

Allseason Diesel Per.
I beleive if anybody questioned quality it was you with yukon. Yet i have had 0 failures with their good axles. Wakeman also runs them, so they are obviously not junk either. Like i said, i like steves design better, but for the price, ill buy the proformance set up.
I dont question Yukons quality. I know what it is and i have the failure numbers direct from Randy's. Your previous post sounded like i may have forgot his or as if you were trying to catch me in a lie. I was raised better than that.
 

Tony Burkhard

Allseason Diesel Per.
Looks to me like he was just trying to clarify as I heard the same story. Still a great track record.
Sorry but if you read his post again it looks as if i forgot one. If he was trying to clearify it should have been worded like "Was Marvins the axle failure you refer to?"

Rhall's always trying to drive a knife in my side... Not sure what i did to him but i sure am sorry...
 

Rhall

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Sorry but if you read his post again it looks as if i forgot one. If he was trying to clearify it should have been worded like "Was Marvins the axle failure you refer to?"

Rhall's always trying to drive a knife in my side... Not sure what i did to him but i sure am sorry...

How? Cause ive called you out on a few little things that you were driving the knife into? The only things i recall driving a knife into is you talking $hit on kyle micheals truck, and you claiming banks intakes were to tall.... And now i asked a question, no matter how i worded it, a simple answer would have been fine considering i said i like your guys design BETTER in several of my posts in the exact thread. It was just something that was brought up to me, so i figured id ask. No im not hassling, im thinking about running a different set of axles next season simply cause yukon is having problems getting the good ones, and i have a buyer for my set up now. The consumer has the right to ask questions, not all of us just drop the credit card on what somebody claims is the best.
 

Rhall

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Oh yeah, i did also call you out on you claiming bosch motorsports different spray pattern loses power with the mahle piston bowl design, simply cause you stated that you guys did not tune on the dyno, just ran different parts. I wouldnt call any of this driving a knife into your side, simply calling out bold statements.
 

MarkBroviak

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Play nice boys...:hug: Now, from where I stand you are all correct but it comes off wrong or missunderstood. Tony is right about the quality difference as we have failed quite a few of the yukon 38spine axles and a Grizzly locker too. We haven't had any issues with Tony's but some customers thought they weren't worth the extra coin and it bit them in the ass. As for the injectors, when you swap between two designs that flow the same amount and one set works and the other doesn't, pretty cut and dry. I have trucks running them but getting them to work properly is not easy. On LB7's we have no choice but to deal with them if we want over 100% but on the newer trucks they are not the nozzle of choice. Yes Rob, it IS your job as the consumer to ask the questions needed to help you make the best educated choice to fit your needs. Tony and I both take stuff sometimes too personally but that is how we are and it is also what drives us to be the best that we can for ourselves and our customers. Our customers will tell you the same thing. And you are right with the questions as that is how you got your truck where it is, in the lime light so congrats on a great runner!
 

Rhall

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Play nice boys...:hug: Now, from where I stand you are all correct but it comes off wrong or missunderstood. Tony is right about the quality difference as we have failed quite a few of the yukon 38spine axles and a Grizzly locker too. We haven't had any issues with Tony's but some customers thought they weren't worth the extra coin and it bit them in the ass. As for the injectors, when you swap between two designs that flow the same amount and one set works and the other doesn't, pretty cut and dry. I have trucks running them but getting them to work properly is not easy. On LB7's we have no choice but to deal with them if we want over 100% but on the newer trucks they are not the nozzle of choice. Yes Rob, it IS your job as the consumer to ask the questions needed to help you make the best educated choice to fit your needs. Tony and I both take stuff sometimes too personally but that is how we are and it is also what drives us to be the best that we can for ourselves and our customers. Our customers will tell you the same thing. And you are right with the questions as that is how you got your truck where it is, in the lime light so congrats on a great runner!


I guess i understand, and take stuff personal too. The reason i asked about the injectors, (sorry to go ot in this thread) is we have noticed huge power differences is timing changes with the different spray pattern. So if tuning changes werent made, then max power was not achieved, while running a stock pattern, it might have been because they dont seem to be as touchy with tuning. But i have not spent any time on an engine dyno, so really i dont know.

As far as the axles, i have no question in mind the design is better, and will hold up better. I also think if yukons were dual splined, they would have a totally different failure rate, but i have yet to break their good ones, ive beat the $hit out of them on our power tracks, but thats one thing we get lucky on, we dont have a lot of rough tracks.. but both of my good sets are twisted over a good revolution, so i took them out to get a new set, i think i should have just kept them in. They were once a good option with the warranty and all, but now you cant get the good ones.

On 2 occasions ive lifted my front wheels off the ground on an unlock, and they have held...
But then again, i havent neutral dropped mine, im sure that would give them hell :D