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RENODMAX

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So Paul why did you build a cross brace in yours and you said in my thread it wasn't needed? Pure curiosity as I know little about structural fab
 
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So Paul why did you build a cross brace in yours and you said in my thread it wasn't needed? Pure curiosity as I know little about structural fab

Because I was asked too:D Like I said there were several people involved in this. It is there mainly for ease of fabrication (because of the way the fixture is set up, and it prevents the tubes from moving when welding...this can be eliminated by backstepping the welds but it takes much longer to weld that way) and shipping. Also many people seem to want it there and it doesn't hurt anything....so "ask and yee shall recive":D
 
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dmaxlover

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Same as a roll bar or cage. Its stronger than MS so you can use thinner material and have the same strength and be lighter. In this case it is both lighter and stronger than the MS alternative that was concidered.

Your brace is much much nicer than the SC brace, and I like the tubing vs the solid bars idea, but I'm not buying the strength/weight argument.

Going alloy in a roll cage works because there is a lot of tubing involved, and the extra thickness needed with MS would add up quick in the weight department. In the case of the TC brace, how much extra weight could there really be if MS tubing was used, ounces?

If a MS brace would be pushed to the point that it yielded, I'm fairly certain that the tail housing or TC would of cracked long before this would happen.

What is really needed with a brace is stiffness, and I think you covered that very well with the cross bar between the 2 legs.

Either way tho, throw on some powder coat and have some competitive pricing and you'll no doubt have a winner on your hands!
 
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Your brace is much much nicer than the SC brace, and I like the tubing vs the solid bars idea, but I'm not buying the strength/weight argument.

Going alloy in a roll cage works because there is a lot of tubing involved, and the extra thickness needed with MS would add up quick in the weight department. In the case of the TC brace, how much extra weight could there really be if MS tubing was used, ounces?

If a MS brace would be pushed to the point that it yielded, I'm fairly certain that the tail housing or TC would of cracked long before this would happen.

What is really needed with a brace is stiffness, and I think you covered that very well with the cross bar between the 2 legs.

Either way tho, throw on some powder coat and have some competitive pricing and you'll no doubt have a winner on your hands!


Thank you. I never said it was a huge weight savings but it is somewhere between 1 and 1 1/2 pounds per brace. Its not a huge weight savings but why not, not to mention when shipping bulk its saves on cost and in the end it gets passed on to the customer.

And the part in the red, maybe your right, but in a day and age when most things are built to be "just enough"......sometimes just enough its quite enough. I'm old school along with the people involved in this and we all rather over build something and know its going to work right the first time:D
 
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Mike L.

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Originaly the idea on the brace was to keep the extension housing from breaking back about 4 or 5 years ago which was happening. The idea failed as was learned, bad u joints were the culprit and the brace did not save the housing. After that I wondered what the brace was good for and did not push any sales when asked " should I install one "
A year and a half ago McRat shattered his TC while making a pass down the strip which left the TC in a lot of pieces. To my suprise very little of it fell to the ground which might have cause broken pieces to get caught under the rear tires at high speed. The brace kept the broken TC suspended. I was sold on the idea after that and highly recommend them to anyone racing.
I wanted my own brace and I wanted it perfect. I am not a welder or a metal fabricator and talked to Paul who is. He agreed to do it. He designed it and I like what he did.:cool2: We will do more projects together in the near future.
 

duratothemax

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I guess its pretty obvious now that I am involved in this:eek:

No...it actually wasnt...I dont think anyone had any idea who was making them, at least I didnt. :confused:

Honestly I thought it was something renodmax made, because he was the last person to post about a DIY transfer case brace.

Im guessing the head was swelling up too big to keep it a secret any longer? :p:
 
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MadMaxx61

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No...it actually wasnt...I dont think anyone had any idea who was making them, at least I didnt. :confused:

Honestly I thought it was something renodmax made, because he was the last person to post about a DIY transfer case brace.

Im guessing the head was swelling up too big to keep it a secret any longer? :p:

Hell I knew it was him and I am not in any loops out there.
 

duratothemax

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NOT trying to stir the pot, its a beautiful piece and would probably hold up to a space shuttle landing on it, but are a lot of people breaking the suncoast braces or something? Is there a need for something more durable (and labor intensive, and Im assuming more expensive)??

Again, not intending to stir the pot.
 
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No...it actually wasnt...I dont think anyone had any idea who was making them, at least I didnt. :confused:

Im guessing the head was swelling up too big to keep it a secret any longer? :p:

Actually there were several people that figured it out on their own, mainly because I was dumb enough to take the first pics on the same table I always take my pics on:banging: I didn't even notice till I got a few PMs:confused:

But after your comment in red I'm starting to wonder if you are related to my fiancee:rofl::hug:

But in all seriousness there are far too many smart and talented people involved in this for me to take all the credit, I'm just the dumb guy that can weld but didn't even weld it:spit:
 
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NOT trying to stir the pot, its a beautiful piece and would probably hold up to a space shuttle landing on it, but are a lot of people breaking the suncoast braces or something? Is there a need for something more durable (and labor intensive, and Im assuming more expensive)??
Again, not intending to stir the pot.

Yes you are assuming:D :hug:because it will be less, I'll let Mike answer the how much questions......
 

duratothemax

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Yes you are assuming:D :hug:because it will be less, I'll let Mike answer the how much questions......

in that case if they are priced similar to the SC braces...thats pretty sweet! I wish I didnt already have a SC brace because id definitely rather have one of yours on there. As I said above, very nice work paul. :cool:

ben
 

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in that case if they are priced similar to the SC braces...thats pretty sweet! I wish I didnt already have a SC brace because id definitely rather have one of yours on there. As I said above, very nice work paul. :cool:

ben

It will be less Ben.
 

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I agree very nice work. I am impressed. There are things I see in this brace that was actually thought out. I can tell there was some thinking involved. Theres not really too many ways to get this job done, but you did put a new spin on it and by the looks of it, it is prolly the best T-case brace avail that I have seen. This piece goes in my book as another object that "form follows function". From an engineering standpoint, this brace should never have an issue failing.

Good job guys :thumb:
 

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I agree very nice work. I am impressed. There are things I see in this brace that was actually thought out. I can tell there was some thinking involved. Theres not really too many ways to get this job done, but you did put a new spin on it and by the looks of it, it is prolly the best T-case brace avail that I have seen. This piece goes in my book as another object that "form follows function". From an engineering standpoint, this brace should never have an issue failing.

Good job guys :thumb:

Thanks for the compliment Mike. Coming from someone that does mechanical drawings for a living it means something.:D
 

TrentNell

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Mike , Paul, and who ever else was involved. the quality is top notch and lucky for me i need to buy one and will be able to get the latest and greatest . keep up the good work guys :hug:
 

TIM Z

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Thanks Mike For explaining how the Brace helped hold the case together on Pats Truck.

I too have been wandering lately, Why did i buy my SC brace if its no good?:baby:

But i guess it is OK.:D

Very Nice Piece you guys have made.

Powerder coated in colors would be awesome, especially for those sky high Nor cal trucks that you can see underneath:D
 
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